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Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:35:12 +0100
From: "Jesper Juhl" <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>
To: "Andres Salomon" <dilinger@debian.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86_64 stack trace cleanup
Cc: "Andi Kleen" <ak@suse.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
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On 2/24/06, Andres Salomon <dilinger@debian.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 11:47 +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
[snip]
>
> > The problem is your new format uses more screen estate, which is precious
> > after an oops because the VGA scrollback is so small.
> > That is why i rejected the earlier attempts at changing this.
> >
>
> I don't see why this is a problem.  Other architectures have done this
> for ages, without problems.  I suspect most people get their backtraces
> from either serial console or logs, as copying them down from the screen
> or taking a picture of the panic is a rather large pain.  It seems like
> you're penalizing everyone for a few select use cases.
>

Some of us don't have a digital camera for taking a picture (and
besides, being able to take a picture doesn't fix the problem of oops
output scrolling out of the visible screen area).
Some of us also don't have a second PC on which to capture logs via
netconsole or serial console.
Copying oopses down by hand from screen to paper sure is a pain (I
know, I've had to do it quite a few times), but for some it's the only
option and then we generally want as much info as possible on-screen
to copy down.

And btw, multi-column oops output has recently become an option for
i386 as well - in my oppinion a good thing.

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