Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 04:36:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 04:36:19 -0400 Received: from ns1.uklinux.net ([212.1.130.11]:52231 "EHLO s1.uklinux.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 04:36:05 -0400 Envelope-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20011021093728.A17786@vega.digitel2002.hu> In-Reply-To: <00d401c159ae$6000c7d0$5cbefea9@moya> <20011021093728.A17786@vega.digitel2002.hu> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 09:33:34 +0100 To: lgb@lgb.hu From: Jonathan Morton Subject: Re: The new X-Kernel ! Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > > Boots up with X, that means. > >I've never understood why people want X, StarOffice (OpenOffice) etc to be >moved into kernel space :) IMHO it's strictly user space issue. You can >start X or gdm/xdm/kdm from a boot script and so on. No kernel modification >is needed for this. Probably because they don't know the difference between kernel and user space. Kinda understandable when you come from a Mac or Windows background, where (in the former) there is no distinction or (in the latter) it's so blurred as to make little difference. And if they *do* understand it, from a dispassionate point of view, it does seem to make sense to put graphics drivers in the kernel - they're implemented as "device drivers" in every other desktop OS. Except MacOS X, where's it's an application layer like glibc, but nobody understand OS X yet beyond the hardest of developers. But they don't realise that XFree86 has an *enormous* amount of developer time behind it, which would need to be duplicated to make it work in kernel space with full backwards compatibility. Oh, and did I mention this would all be for one platform - XFree86 is designed to run on many! It would also bloat the kernel tremendously. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- from: Jonathan "Chromatix" Morton mail: chromi@cyberspace.org (not for attachments) website: http://www.chromatix.uklinux.net/vnc/ geekcode: GCS$/E dpu(!) s:- a20 C+++ UL++ P L+++ E W+ N- o? K? w--- O-- M++$ V? PS PE- Y+ PGP++ t- 5- X- R !tv b++ DI+++ D G e+ h+ r++ y+(*) tagline: The key to knowledge is not to rely on people to teach you it. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/