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Date:   Tue, 7 Apr 2020 19:20:49 +0300
From:   Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>
To:     Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech>
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Hi Maxime,

On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 02:32:32PM +0200, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> Hi Robert,
> 
> On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 01:29:05PM +0200, Robert Foss wrote:
> > On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 10:36, Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 11:35:07AM +0300, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > > > > But that 19.2MHz is not a limitation of the device itself, it's a
> > > > > limitation of our implementation, so we can instead implement
> > > > > something equivalent in Linux using a clk_set_rate to 19.2MHz (to make
> > > > > sure that our parent clock is configured at the right rate) and the
> > > > > clk_get_rate and compare that to 19.2MHz (to make sure that it's not
> > > > > been rounded too far apart from the frequency we expect).
> > > > >
> > > > > This is doing exactly the same thing, except that we don't encode our
> > > > > implementation limitations in the DT, but in the driver instead.
> > > >
> > > > What I really wanted to say that a driver that doesn't get the clock
> > > > frequency from DT but still sets that frequency is broken.
> > > >
> > > > This frequency is highly system specific, and in many cases only a certain
> > > > frequency is usable, for a few reasons: On many SoCs, not all common
> > > > frequencies can be used (e.g. 9,6 MHz, 19,2 MHz and 24 MHz; while others
> > > > are being used as well), and then that frequency affects the usable CSI-2
> > > > bus frequencies directly --- and of those, only safe, known-good ones
> > > > should be used. IOW, getting the external clock frequency wrong typically
> > > > has an effect that that none of the known-good CSI-2 bus clock frequencies
> > > > are available.
> > >
> > > So clock-frequency is not about the "Frequency of the xvclk clock in
> > > Hertz", but the frequency at which that clock must run on this
> > > particular SoC / board to be functional?
> > >
> > > If so, then yeah, we should definitely keep it, but the documentation
> > > of the binding should be made clearer as well.
> >
> > Alright so, let me summarise the desired approach then.
> 
> There's a separate discussion on the same topic here:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/20200407122106.GD4751@pendragon.ideasonboard.com/
> 
> > ACPI:
> >   - Fetch the "clock-frequency" property
> >   - Verify it to be 19.2Mhz
> >
> > DT:
> >   - Fetch the "clock-frequency" property
> >   - Verify it to be 19.2Mhz
> >   - Get xvclk clock
> >   - Get xvclk clock rate
> >   - Verify xvclk clock rate to be 19.2Mhz
> 
> The current status is that you should
> 's/clock-frequency/link-frequencies/', and in order to replace
> assigned-clock-rates, you'll want to have a clk_set_rate to 19.2MHz
> between steps 3 and 4

The (CSI-2) link frequency is specified in the endpoint, and is already
being read by the V4L2 fwnode framework.

-- 
Sakari Ailus