Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:37:10 +0100
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: col-pepper@piments.com
Cc: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>,
       Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
       Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>,
       linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: o_sync in vfat driver
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Hi!

> > I agree completely which is why we hack the system to remove the o_sync
> > on our distro derivative.  (-:
> >
> > But my point was that your solution of "don't do that then" is not much
> > use to your average user who sits in front of such distro in graphical
> > desktop as they are not technical enough to find and hack their hotplug
> > system to work properly...
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> >         Anton
> 
> >> If you don't want it *DO NOT USE IT AT THE MOUNT COMMAND LINE* !!!
> 
> Yeah, cleaver.
> That is not really a constructive responce. I dont use , I do use command  
> line mount all the time. I never was in danger of damaging my drive with  
> this new "feature".
> 
> Telling a user who has just burnt out a brand new 1GB usb device he should  
> have RTFM and modified that HAL configuration to insure it did not use  
> sync it not likely to win much confidence in the linux kernel.

Return that 1GB usb device to manufacturer, it was broken.

> The point of raising this is that the vast majority of linux users have no  
> awareness of this. If there is a danger of this sync implementation  
> damaging hardware it should be done differently.

Fix the distribution, then.
								Pavel
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