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To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
       Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>,
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       Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [RFC] vfs: cleanup of permission()
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 12:59:25 +0000
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Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org> wrote on 01/03/2006 12:37:51:

> > And finally, please don't remove nameidata. Modules out there depend 
on it 
> 
> are those modules about to merged into the kernel? The current intent

See third paragraph of my reply.

> infrastructure isn't fulfilling what it should do well, and from what
> I've seen on the discussions it sounds that the best way forward is to
> undo the current implementation and then roll out one which caters to
> the needs of the existing users better.

That I don't know so I can't comment at the moment. I haven't seen 
anything on linux-security-modules recently?
 
> As external module, you have little say so far simply because your usage
> isn't visible. I'd urge you to quickly submit your code so that the
> things you need from this are better visible to the people who are
> thinking and working on the redesign.

I know all that, but it is a complicated matter to discuss. That's why I 
was planning to make a comprehensive announcement which would discuss most 
of the hot topics. Ideally yes, I would like to merge, but it won't happen 
now. The first thing I would like to do is establish common ground with 
other security vendors so that we could approach the problem together. 
Personaly, I am not sure whether insisting that everything should be a 
part of kernel is a right thing to do even though I think I understand all 
the up- and down-sides of both policies.

Having said all this above, I am afraid that there will be no other choice 
but to start working on the announcement asap. :)
 
> > and we at Sophos are about to release a new product which needs it as 
> > well. 
> 
> I assume we're talking about an open source product, or at least kernel
> component, here?

Of course. Kernel component might be known to some as Talpa and it is 
released under GPL.

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