To: Gabor Gombas <gombasg@sztaki.hu>
Cc: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Add kernel<->userspace ABI stability documentation
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From: Jes Sorensen <jes@sgi.com>
Date: 01 Mar 2006 09:35:14 -0500
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>>>>> "Gabor" == Gabor Gombas <gombasg@sztaki.hu> writes:

Gabor> On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 02:53:56PM +0100, Lars Marowsky-Bree
Gabor> wrote:
>> The fact is that now we have user-space and kernel space tied
>> together much more intimately than ever; udev & sysfs being the
>> prime examples these days, and then it's not that some figure in
>> top is wrong, but "oops my network no longer loads and the box is
>> 400 miles away".

Gabor> IMHO this is not a good example as there is really no reason to
Gabor> install udev on such a box at all. Remember: KISS. Having a
Gabor> static /dev and /etc/modules filled in (or even better, a
Gabor> monolithic kernel) is far more reliable to administer.

Gabor> On a desktop machine when you are plugging in various
Gabor> USB/Firewire/etc.  devices all the time udev works great. On a
Gabor> remote server there is no real need for udev.

Problem is that a lot of sites rely on 'enterprise' distros (SLES,
RHEL, etc.), so if those use udev, the users will end up with it as
well.

Cheers,
Jes
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