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From:   Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
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On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 05:31:31PM +0200, Jessica Yu wrote:
> > But I still not a fan of the fact that COMING has two different
> > "states".  For example, after your patch, when apply_relocate_add() is
> > called from klp_module_coming(), it can use memcpy(), but when called
> > from klp module init() it has to use text poke.  But both are COMING so
> > there's no way to look at the module state to know which can be used.
> 
> This is a good observation, thanks for bringing it up. I agree that we
> should strive to be consistent with what the module states mean. In my
> head, I think it is easiest to assume/establish the following meanings
> for each module state:
> 
> MODULE_STATE_UNFORMED - no protections. relocations, alternatives,
> ftrace module initialization, etc. any other text modifications are
> in the process of being applied. Direct writes are permissible.
> 
> MODULE_STATE_COMING - module fully formed, text modifications are
> done, protections applied, module is ready to execute init or is
> executing init.
> 
> I wonder if we could enforce the meaning of these two states more
> consistently without needing to add another module state.
> 
> Regarding Peter's patches, with the set_all_modules_text_*() api gone,
> and ftrace reliance on MODULE_STATE_COMING gone (I think?), is there
> anything preventing ftrace_module_init+enable from being called
> earlier (i.e., before complete_formation()) while the module is
> unformed? Then you don't have to move module_enable_ro/nx later and we
> keep the MODULE_STATE_COMING semantics. And if we're enforcing the
> above module state meanings, I would also be OK with moving jump_label
> and static_call out of the coming notifier chain and making them
> explicit calls while the module is still writable.
> 
> Sorry in advance if I missed anything above, I'm still trying to wrap
> my head around which callers need what module state and what module
> permissions :/

Sounds reasonable to me...

BTW, instead of hard-coding the jump-label/static-call/ftrace calls, we
could instead call notifiers with MODULE_STATE_UNFORMED.

-- 
Josh