Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 07:42:09 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 07:41:59 -0400 Received: from dsl-65-186-161-49.telocity.com ([65.186.161.49]:25864 "EHLO nic.osagesoftware.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 07:41:45 -0400 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011022073529.00d8dcf0@mail.osagesoftware.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 07:42:17 -0400 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: David Relson Subject: Re: LPP (was: The new X-Kernel !) In-Reply-To: <15va3i-0cRXvcC@fmrl00.sul.t-online.com> In-Reply-To: <20011022022839.A8452@unthought.net> <20011021220346.D19390@vega.digitel2002.hu> <15vQtM-22TOdsC@fmrl02.sul.t-online.com> <20011022022839.A8452@unthought.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org If I correctly remember the days when I used NeXTSTEP, there were two boot modes. In graphics mode, there was a status bar. In verbose (text) mode, all the messages appeared. As the boot started, there was a prompt in which you could specify single-user mode, verbose mode, etc. With no specification, after a few seconds it would go ahead and boot. Also, the mode (graphics vs text) could be set via the Preferences capability. As a software developer, most of the time I didn't want/need the messages so I'd let it run in graphics mode. Of course when the boot had a problem, I'd reboot and run it verbose (text) mode. David At 08:57 PM 10/21/01, you wrote: >On Monday 22 October 2001 02:28, you wrote: > > How would hiding that information make the system "easier to use" ? > >Because the majority of people (and especially those who haven't been reached >by Linux yet) don't care for the messages. They are as interested in boot >messages as you may be in reading debug information from your DVD player or >car. > >Assuming you have a car with a display for the embedded computer, and you >don't know anything about its software or hardware, you just want to drive. >Would you prefer to see lots of cryptic messages when you turn the key, or >just some simple picture with a progress bar showing you when the system is >ready? >IMHO the bar is all you need. Everything else just distracts you from the >only important thing. > >Showing unimportant information is like turning on debug messages that you >don't need. > >bye... > >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in >the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/