Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:30:30 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:30:20 -0400 Received: from cx97923-a.phnx3.az.home.com ([24.9.112.194]:59048 "EHLO grok.yi.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:30:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3BD43BA5.B9E8E557@candelatech.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:30:45 -0700 From: Ben Greear Organization: Candela Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.12 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Bird CC: no To-header on input <"unlisted-recipients:;;"@www.candelatech.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Input on the Non-GPL Modules - legal nonsense In-Reply-To: <3BD1F5CC.20BF3F20@candelatech.com> <3BD438ED.360D0007@lineo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Tim Bird wrote: > > Ben Greear wrote: > > > > Alan Cox wrote: > > > > > > > What prevents the author of a non-GPL module who needs access to a > > > > GPL-only symbol from writing a small GPLed module which imports the > > > > GPL-only symbol (this is allowed, because the small module is GPL), > > > > and exports a basically identical symbol without the GPL-only > > > > restriction? > > > > > > The fact that it ends up GPL'd to be linked (legal derivative work sense) > > > to the GPL'd code so you can link it to either but not both at the same time > > > > If you own the copyright to the small shim GPL piece, can anyone else > > take legal action on your part? If not, then all you have to do is not > > sue yourself for the double linkage and no one else can sue you either.... > > I keep hearing this type of reasoning. It flat-out doesn't work > this way in the legal system. This is similar to arguing that > you didn't really stab someone if you threw the knife instead > of holding it. ("But your honor, once the knife left my hand > it really wasn't under my control...") I'm not advocating this as a good thing to do, but I am curious: Can someone else take action against this? I hope the answer is yes. This whole thing begins to look like MS's attempts at securing digital music: there are just too many ways around it. Either way, I've had my say on this topic...and will let it RIP. Ben > > If your actions bring about the result, whether > directly or indirectly, you are legally liable for the > consequences. > ____________________________________________________________ > Tim Bird Lineo, Inc. > Senior VP, Research 390 South 400 West > tbird@lineo.com Lindon, UT 84042 > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ -- Ben Greear President of Candela Technologies Inc http://www.candelatech.com ScryMUD: http://scry.wanfear.com http://scry.wanfear.com/~greear - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/