Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932092AbWCFQYU (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:24:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932149AbWCFQYU (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:24:20 -0500 Received: from xenotime.net ([66.160.160.81]:61104 "HELO xenotime.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S932092AbWCFQYT (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:24:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 08:25:47 -0800 From: "Randy.Dunlap" To: Olivier Galibert Cc: jesper.juhl@gmail.com, arjan@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Is that an acceptable interface change? Message-Id: <20060306082547.bc9671f8.rdunlap@xenotime.net> In-Reply-To: <20060306161512.GB23513@dspnet.fr.eu.org> References: <20060306011757.GA21649@dspnet.fr.eu.org> <1141631568.4084.2.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060306155021.GA23513@dspnet.fr.eu.org> <9a8748490603060755r55b3584bpf0a16451a57925b5@mail.gmail.com> <20060306161512.GB23513@dspnet.fr.eu.org> Organization: YPO4 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.2 (GTK+ 2.8.3; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 946 Lines: 25 On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 17:15:12 +0100 Olivier Galibert wrote: > On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 04:55:02PM +0100, Jesper Juhl wrote: > > Userspace apps should not include kernel headers, period. > > So, userspace applications really shouldn't care. > > Please excuse me if I'm a little dense here, but the kernel headers > _define_ the userspace-kernel interface. If you don't have them or a > sanitized copy of them you just can't talk with the kernel at all. JJ should/could have said what to use instead.* You should use glibc sanitized kernel headers. Raw kernel headers are not appropriate or supported for use in userspace. *: similar to some replies like "No" without further explanation. --- ~Randy - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/