Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:25:28 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:25:19 -0400 Received: from smtpnotes.altec.com ([209.149.164.10]:18698 "HELO smtpnotes.altec.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:25:12 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ALTEC From: Wayne.Brown@altec.com To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Message-ID: <86256AED.005FB443.00@smtpnotes.altec.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:21:43 -0500 Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.20pre10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org It's highly unlikely that Alan withholding information from a handful of US Linux users and developers will have any effect on US laws. Plenty of us have complained already to our elected officials, without results. The number of people who would care (or even know) about Alan's security boycott -- even if it includes the entire US readership of linux-kernel -- is vanishingly small compared to the general population, and no politician is going to pay attention to such a small and dilute constituency. All a policy of secrecy will accomplish is to punish US kernel hackers (who probably disagree with the DMCA as much as the rest of you) and have no effect on the average citizen who doesn't have a clue about either the DMCA or Linux. I'm seeing a disturbing trend here; with all the talk about this topic and about EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL here lately, I'm starting to think linux-kernel is more about restricting information than disseminating it. I believe the DCMA should be treated like firearms laws or any other bad laws: Fight them where possible, and disobey them where fighting them is not possible. Wayne Rik van Riel on 10/22/2001 11:03:53 AM To: Wayne Brown/Corporate/Altec@Altec cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.20pre10 On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 Wayne.Brown@altec.com wrote: > Speaking as a US citizen, I hope that someone outside the US > will grab that info as soon as it's available and make it > accessible to everyone. (Not that I need it myself -- I have no > interest in 2.2.20 -- but I like to see crap legislation like > the DMCA subverted wherever possible.) Yeah, lets keep up the status quo so bad laws never get subverted and people like Dmitry Skylarov are the only people suffering from bad US laws. NOT. Rik -- DMCA, SSSCA, W3C? Who cares? http://thefreeworld.net/ (volunteers needed) http://www.surriel.com/ http://distro.conectiva.com/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/