Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:45:48 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:45:39 -0400 Received: from schroeder.cs.wisc.edu ([128.105.6.11]:58385 "EHLO schroeder.cs.wisc.edu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:45:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200110221745.f9MHjvF04940@schroeder.cs.wisc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Nick LeRoy Organization: UW Condor To: Wayne.Brown@altec.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.20pre10 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:46:04 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] In-Reply-To: <86256AED.005FB443.00@smtpnotes.altec.com> In-Reply-To: <86256AED.005FB443.00@smtpnotes.altec.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Wayne, everybody.. I hate to belabor this point, but I'm in full agreement. If I really believed that Alan's boycott would have *any* positive affect, I'd fully support it, but the reality of the situation is that Wayne is right -- nobody with any real power will ever know or be able to a difference. I think that civil disobiediance is the only sensible action. -Nick On Monday 22 October 2001 12:21, Wayne.Brown@altec.com wrote: > It's highly unlikely that Alan withholding information from a handful of US > Linux users and developers will have any effect on US laws. Plenty of us > have complained already to our elected officials, without results. The > number of people who would care (or even know) about Alan's security > boycott -- even if it includes the entire US readership of linux-kernel -- > is vanishingly small compared to the general population, and no politician > is going to pay attention to such a small and dilute constituency. All a > policy of secrecy will accomplish is to punish US kernel hackers (who > probably disagree with the DMCA as much as the rest of you) and have no > effect on the average citizen who doesn't have a clue about either the DMCA > or Linux. I'm seeing a disturbing trend here; with all the talk about this > topic and about EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL here lately, I'm starting to think > linux-kernel is more about restricting information than disseminating it. > > I believe the DCMA should be treated like firearms laws or any other bad > laws: Fight them where possible, and disobey them where fighting them is > not possible. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/