Received: by 2002:a25:1985:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id 127csp4201696ybz; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 07:24:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypIT5HKD0HYuR5Q1f4nUAsJ8iFIUXnTBqLiNUHqjI9GVdFvXX1CclQa/ZTAXWtueN8TD/lEo X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:2054:: with SMTP id pg20mr23732766ejb.127.1588083892260; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 07:24:52 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1588083892; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=mWYXc5rlf08jajZLUMJcTFo7N6skHbaOH/JfmtGpD/ygLvfJQ+qToLdRyAv2ScYsVT CM3ZFBtHAu/D2cAiHcpqy74ABSJYLpOIheE6vVdJh827KXWHFxcEtZzNp7mVfXLmF/CM rrP1Xb+eB3tAiSzIc6c/vNmCh1vHG8AyYbdcf5VIVrR6lKt0m9iv6j24AdOuVvaEPKwZ 2qRRW94jyjcAredpWgaif6hKqotZuFuIqwobssw40omp4KSbVqlYPpSFZEevEWzyihbJ 9nEK9i+mLlnvwf5jISoGqRZUd/h1lhjj7HMxtuccePIW9+VRhlqE0fzrUU5Jr0y46TDz 09eQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date; bh=UNgWK6peYcO5VM8yreOyJZvOkzt6JaIhs6n0MpZvBHM=; b=EAd4G+Diw7048cOEsLfovVHcislbN9l3YCcxgq5igjGK0BNjNsjgqlJe3ej1Oe1SPl hS4iZvFTsjVzHNJiVpEsTkwJHMo4LmSLOZRra3rTLZsyu1NATXswmU/nmbuXch3fzpoN kWPdvK0HDINHmfO7dFJ2Uf/NFrGwJbbfc2r8scM6TUElRLB/t9EBF+c/xll0RWWoBwTJ 7bXuuluUTXZdeJalZVqWhGWAyTG73jPJYLfSSym9u4joBD7R05iLCy4+zyFCcCJ+YLAY OIoYCEKkIxLWdyGE7Chy4rCJIWwDeVhdWN1pQBIIVlz9z53c/JlbIjQ2Yd179ICGPP2b XaLQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id n10si1671993edt.563.2020.04.28.07.24.25; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 07:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727827AbgD1OWw (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 28 Apr 2020 10:22:52 -0400 Received: from verein.lst.de ([213.95.11.211]:56550 "EHLO verein.lst.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726868AbgD1OWw (ORCPT ); Tue, 28 Apr 2020 10:22:52 -0400 Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id D68AF68CFE; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 16:22:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 16:22:47 +0200 From: Christoph Hellwig To: "David E. Box" Cc: Christoph Hellwig , rjw@rjwysocki.net, lenb@kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com, kbusch@kernel.org, axboe@fb.com, sagi@grimberg.me, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Add support for StorageD3Enable _DSD property Message-ID: <20200428142247.GB5439@lst.de> References: <20200428003214.3764-1-david.e.box@linux.intel.com> <20200428051312.GB17146@lst.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 07:09:59AM -0700, David E. Box wrote: > > I'm not sure who came up with the idea to put this into ACPI, but it > > belongs into NVMe. Please talk to the NVMe technical working group > > instead of trying to overrules them in an unrelated group that > > doesn't > > apply to all of PCIe. > > Agreed that this is not ideal since it does not apply to all of PCIe. > But as the property already exists on shipping systems, we need to be > able to read it in the NVMe driver and the patch is consitent with the > way properties under PCI ports are read. The point is that it is not the BIOSes job do decide how Linux does power management. For example D3 has really horrible entry and exit latencies in many cases, and will lead to higher power usage.