Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932488AbWCFXmN (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:42:13 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932493AbWCFXmN (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:42:13 -0500 Received: from smtp107.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([68.142.225.205]:11437 "HELO smtp107.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S932488AbWCFXmL (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:42:11 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:Subject:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=eOgjYP5FzaEZ8HFuycFNDsD3hnhYu0mlaJIkBxI8NF2cSqJUXcLoU7k0MdZeilK2hF6OmHGzmtTrCn31jxHJ0etR1IcXjfSyTtDdmeladJhF0S5jH8y99mXFHqWHhC91RcMPzzNi7eu1MkY/BPC7G3YG8nlDXKJtjpfvOOjXuJA= ; Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] make UNIX a bool From: "James C. Georgas" To: Kyle Moffett Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Adrian Bunk In-Reply-To: <6D8D14D2-4ED3-46ED-8FB9-FF8567DC9F70@mac.com> References: <1141358816.3582.18.camel@Rainsong.home> <1141359278.3582.22.camel@Rainsong.home> <20060302233249.2aa918f4.mrmacman_g4@mac.com> <1141421511.11092.66.camel@Rainsong.home> <6D8D14D2-4ED3-46ED-8FB9-FF8567DC9F70@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 18:42:18 -0500 Message-Id: <1141688538.19207.18.camel@Rainsong.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2186 Lines: 51 On Sat, 2006-04-03 at 17:57 -0500, Kyle Moffett wrote: > On Mar 3, 2006, at 16:31:51, James C. Georgas wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-02-03 at 23:32 -0500, Kyle Moffett wrote: > >> af_unix (IE: CONFIG_UNIX) currently uses the symbol > >> get_max_files. It is the only module that uses that symbol, and > >> that symbol probably should not be exported as it's kind of an > >> internal API. Therefore if we mandate that CONFIG_UNIX != m, then > >> that symbol may be properly unexported and made private, because > >> nothing modular would use it. Does that clear things up? > > > > Yes, I think I understand. > > > > However, even if you don't export the symbol, I don't see how you > > can make it private (i.e. static declaration) to file_table.c, > > since it has to remain extern, in order to be visible to af_unix.c. > > You're missing some crucial information about how Linux operates. > EXPORT_SYMBOL != extern. Basically, Linux maintains a list of > symbols that dynamically loaded modules are allowed to use, along > with some technical usage restrictions on each (Symbols exported > with EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL may only be used by modules that declare > 'MODULE_LICENSE("GPL");'.) Exporting a symbol increases the > likliehood that some module author will use it inappropriately, and > bloats the kernel. In this case, removing the EXPORT_SYMBOL() would > be a good thing. Isn't it kind of pointless to not EXPORT a symbol if the symbol is still declared globally in an include/linux/ header file? If the intent is to prevent abuse of the symbol, then this doesn't do it, because I can just statically compile my module into the kernel, and keep on using that symbol. It makes sense to me to remove the EXPORT of geget_max_filest_max_files, if the intent is to eventually remove I was under the impression that Adrian wanted > > Cheers, > Kyle Moffett > -- James C. Georgas - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/