Received: by 2002:a25:1985:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id 127csp652900ybz; Fri, 1 May 2020 06:13:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypLmiCePXSjZ0XBtMa1hYM4IT/mcJvDIOReMYjSmWRAFLOcmNC33iOGI0nHAa+1oQ/nE6+v2 X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:1c94:: with SMTP id g20mr2977503ejh.319.1588338833466; Fri, 01 May 2020 06:13:53 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1588338833; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=vHkxUOJg7nJM1TRBX0OY73OAn4LwEys9GAdU7WRGcU5WedzdptiN13QWEq6e6x0bUe 23y5yQbjnQiXgNZvTHSXDBB+2RdzIFdOHE34d+Vvl/38e/+EfpSL5N5mbZkh3WMXhhbZ 34lf4uZh7lDUGd3zQJzdIkiNUSCKcnp5g1qIGLPw+jQLm/9SbJfZxDQPDX44IaK4jQNx AEtFRoSLgqYCiwi7e+eVhfKW+mGwamAoBf6o9v4xu3uxGXoxi67KinGcWyM100ATJ3nc e75tPzBKNNM5r+OSiXRivNXUu+8JCvLfEdVUCMBF7h6Uxn1U8NhU5SBBhE+kjPprqBdd 0lhg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date; bh=9rTZNTxLZUodN10B+ZVJtAKEKNo/yMn7FpbdgNOBk+4=; b=FvKll5X4KKR33rPv+1cg/X4q7j1qBv6C6si11HCn41hIeB/y/o/p85s977b0hUNtC+ D09EIutqDSw1/6UlyKeFCNNUAagMNbdZ31LANlF2I9Rvmeyk18JapyamyHaZ5QTcmF1J zBZB59/VjRIwWH8gScPcz0kl2uZ0QzbKzjompT8IUzzx1he+FOyqSWVvlAuj0mxxxQp/ 98OyRf0S0K6vVM/sfhmJJXQGhMIVdN+6JWL+T76y3csm7J2iY6x7E/5HXiLfCH8AG2rK lycmPsCubQeNehJvAgw7KXXi/m+nDcTTZkpOHg2S5UGRe7JLbGKdmkpMDGi6sKF9oAXb cLBA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id v15si1523892edq.394.2020.05.01.06.13.30; Fri, 01 May 2020 06:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728822AbgEANKH (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 1 May 2020 09:10:07 -0400 Received: from verein.lst.de ([213.95.11.211]:46158 "EHLO verein.lst.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728586AbgEANKH (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 May 2020 09:10:07 -0400 Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id 9444168BFE; Fri, 1 May 2020 15:10:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 15:10:01 +0200 From: "hch@lst.de" To: "Williams, Dan J" Cc: "hch@lst.de" , "david.e.box@linux.intel.com" , "linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" , "sagi@grimberg.me" , "lenb@kernel.org" , "rjw@rjwysocki.net" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" , "axboe@fb.com" , "kbusch@kernel.org" , "bhelgaas@google.com" Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Add support for StorageD3Enable _DSD property Message-ID: <20200501131001.GA6600@lst.de> References: <20200428003214.3764-1-david.e.box@linux.intel.com> <20200428051312.GB17146@lst.de> <20200428142247.GB5439@lst.de> <296064bbcf702744bf603932c9d849307db2e5b7.camel@intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <296064bbcf702744bf603932c9d849307db2e5b7.camel@intel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 05:20:09AM +0000, Williams, Dan J wrote: > > The platform can know which pm policies will save the most power. But > > since the solution doesn't apply to all PCIe devices (despite BIOS > > specifying it that way) I'll withdraw this patch. Thanks. > > Wait, why withdraw? In this case the platform is unfortunately > preventing the standard driver from making a proper determination. So > while I agree that it's not the BIOSes job, when the platform actively > prevents proper operation due to some ill conceived non-standard > platform property what is Linux left to do on these systems? > > The *patch* is not trying to overrule NVME, and the best I can say is > that the Intel Linux team was not in the loop when this was being > decided between the platform BIOS implemenation and whomever thought > they could just publish random ACPI properties that impacted NVME > operation [1]. > > So now David is trying to get these platform unbroken because they are > already shipping with this b0rkage. So can we please clearly mark this as a quirk and warn in the kernel log about a buggy BIOS?