Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932247AbWCHO7V (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:59:21 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932331AbWCHO7V (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:59:21 -0500 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.203]:32126 "EHLO xproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932247AbWCHO7U convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:59:20 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=T/rESDCwnCKl+R3uc8fCDToADRqzKdj8W8Uyo2PwW1n4BIgvdSd6T7qSV4eVU9+CYhLDRzyZMBS0o48BGI12bcHJvezJffUxf08yvu9sq8xdWWg8C/wnF6CRfbBx+89u6RZ/Iozr9jwgLuDhQxrTROAotsOgrDzwbgDCPMTdELI= Message-ID: <161717d50603080659t53462cd0k53969c0d33e06321@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:59:20 -0500 From: "Dave Neuer" To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [future of drivers?] a proposal for binary drivers. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060308102731.GO27946@ftp.linux.org.uk> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1482 Lines: 35 On 3/8/06, Anshuman Gholap wrote: > > this discussion is totally for betterment of the new users who should > not be forced to become developers in order to get a trival thing > running on their desktop/laptop, like device driver. So far, this discussion is not helping new users at all. Users need to do a little research before buing hardware, period. Things are getting better across all platforms and operating systems (remember the bad old days of jumpers and IRQ conflicts?), it is not linux-specific. What is linux-specific in this context is that many people, like myself, who have contributed code to the kernel under the GPL *don't want* their code to be used in non-free software, period. Someone who wants to leverage my work needs to do it under the terms that I allow. That is the law. Whining is not going to change my mind. If a company thinks they can make money selling hardware with closed-source drivers (on some other OS), more power to them. If a company thinks they can make money selling hardware with open-source drivers on Linux and want to leverage my work, more power to them (I'll even help them). But they can't use my work and not release the code. It's really that simple. Dave - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/