Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932521AbWCHVc2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Mar 2006 16:32:28 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932533AbWCHVc2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Mar 2006 16:32:28 -0500 Received: from xenotime.net ([66.160.160.81]:61056 "HELO xenotime.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S932521AbWCHVc1 (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Mar 2006 16:32:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 13:32:22 -0800 (PST) From: "Randy.Dunlap" X-X-Sender: rddunlap@shark.he.net To: Tim Tassonis cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [future of drivers?] a proposal for binary drivers. In-Reply-To: <440F4C80.6070907@cubic.ch> Message-ID: References: <440F4C80.6070907@cubic.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1681 Lines: 42 On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Tim Tassonis wrote: > > > > if there was binary allowed (with any license) maybe dlink themself > > would build a driver, make documentation and provide it on CD, just > > see how much effort would be saved and in end he would get more time > > to treat his patients. > > > > Apart from all the other good arguments already posted: > > Are you really sure they will? Maybe dlink will, but I can tell from > personal expierience (whine, whine) that the majority of vendors still > won't release drivers. For the simple reason because they regard Linux a > market too small to support. That is the main reason for most of them, > not the license stuff. Right, what we really need IMO is specs and the right to produce GPL drivers from the specs. Very little real work is required from the vendors aside from IP/legal. > Before Linux, I was an OS/2 user and although every vendor in the world > was allowed to provide OS/2 drivers, there were more or less the same > amount of vendor contributed drivers as there are now in Linux. > > I'm 100% sure that Linux supports more hardware than OS/2 did back then > and the user base (Desktop wise) was at least as big as Linux. > > OS/2 died exactly because software companies didn't write closed-source > software, hardware companies didn't write closed-source drivers, and IBM > couldn't write it all themselves. > > So why repeat this desaster? > Tim -- ~Randy - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/