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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <45bc81bb-8765-ffff-6e47-8ee9702c8bcd@de.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 5/5/20 7:00 AM, Christian Borntraeger wrote: > We are certainly not married to our approach. I would happily extend/change > this to anything that works for your case and the s390 case. So can you outline > your requirements a bit more? For SEV, the guest define which pages are encrypted or not. You could theoretically do DMA to them or have the CPU access their contents, but you'd get either get ciphertext for reads, or data corruption and loss of cache coherency for writes. That's not so cool. Ideally, we would stop the CPU from ever accessing those pages by unmapping them. But, the pages go in and out of the encrypted state and the host really needs to be *sure* about what's going on before it restores its mapping and messes with the page. That includes situations where someone does a gup, starts an I/O to an unencrypted page, then the guest tries to convert that page over to being encrypted. So, the requirements are: 1. Allow host-side DMA and CPU access to shared pages 2. Stop host-side DMA and CPU access to encrypted pages 3. Allow pages to be converted between the states at the request of the guest Stopping the DMA is pretty easy, even across the gazillions of drivers in the tree because even random ethernet drivers do stuff like: txdr->buffer_info[i].dma = dma_map_single(&pdev->dev, skb->data, skb->len, DMA_TO_DEVICE); So the DMA can be stopped at the mapping layer. It's a *LOT* easier to catch there since the IOMMUs already provide isolation between the I/O and CPU address spaces.