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[73.241.150.58]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a129sm2459072pfb.102.2020.05.05.09.37.43 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 05 May 2020 09:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [PATCH net v2 0/2] Revert the 'socket_alloc' life cycle change From: Eric Dumazet To: SeongJae Park , Eric Dumazet Cc: David Miller , Al Viro , Jakub Kicinski , Greg Kroah-Hartman , sj38.park@gmail.com, netdev , LKML , SeongJae Park , snu@amazon.com, amit@kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org, Paul McKenney References: <20200505161302.547-1-sjpark@amazon.com> <05843a3c-eb9d-3a0d-f992-7e4b97cc1f19@gmail.com> <77124fc2-86b2-27f6-fd7c-4f1e86eb3fff@gmail.com> Message-ID: <67bdfac9-0d7d-0bbe-dc7a-d73979fd8ed9@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 09:37:42 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <77124fc2-86b2-27f6-fd7c-4f1e86eb3fff@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 5/5/20 9:31 AM, Eric Dumazet wrote: > > > On 5/5/20 9:25 AM, Eric Dumazet wrote: >> >> >> On 5/5/20 9:13 AM, SeongJae Park wrote: >>> On Tue, 5 May 2020 09:00:44 -0700 Eric Dumazet wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 8:47 AM SeongJae Park wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:20:50 -0700 Eric Dumazet wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/5/20 8:07 AM, SeongJae Park wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 5 May 2020 07:53:39 -0700 Eric Dumazet wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why do we have 10,000,000 objects around ? Could this be because of >>>>>>>> some RCU problem ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mainly because of a long RCU grace period, as you guess. I have no idea how >>>>>>> the grace period became so long in this case. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As my test machine was a virtual machine instance, I guess RCU readers >>>>>>> preemption[1] like problem might affected this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/atc17/atc17-prasad.pdf >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Once Al patches reverted, do you have 10,000,000 sock_alloc around ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, both the old kernel that prior to Al's patches and the recent kernel >>>>>>> reverting the Al's patches didn't reproduce the problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I repeat my question : Do you have 10,000,000 (smaller) objects kept in slab caches ? >>>>>> >>>>>> TCP sockets use the (very complex, error prone) SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU, but not the struct socket_wq >>>>>> object that was allocated in sock_alloc_inode() before Al patches. >>>>>> >>>>>> These objects should be visible in kmalloc-64 kmem cache. >>>>> >>>>> Not exactly the 10,000,000, as it is only the possible highest number, but I >>>>> was able to observe clear exponential increase of the number of the objects >>>>> using slabtop. Before the start of the problematic workload, the number of >>>>> objects of 'kmalloc-64' was 5760, but I was able to observe the number increase >>>>> to 1,136,576. >>>>> >>>>> OBJS ACTIVE USE OBJ SIZE SLABS OBJ/SLAB CACHE SIZE NAME >>>>> before: 5760 5088 88% 0.06K 90 64 360K kmalloc-64 >>>>> after: 1136576 1136576 100% 0.06K 17759 64 71036K kmalloc-64 >>>>> >>>> >>>> Great, thanks. >>>> >>>> How recent is the kernel you are running for your experiment ? >>> >>> It's based on 5.4.35. >>> >>>> >>>> Let's make sure the bug is not in RCU. >>> >>> One thing I can currently say is that the grace period passes at last. I >>> modified the benchmark to repeat not 10,000 times but only 5,000 times to run >>> the test without OOM but easily observable memory pressure. As soon as the >>> benchmark finishes, the memory were freed. >>> >>> If you need more tests, please let me know. >>> >> >> I would ask Paul opinion on this issue, because we have many objects >> being freed after RCU grace periods. >> >> If RCU subsystem can not keep-up, I guess other workloads will also suffer. >> >> Sure, we can revert patches there and there trying to work around the issue, >> but for objects allocated from process context, we should not have these problems. >> > > I wonder if simply adjusting rcu_divisor to 6 or 5 would help > > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tree.c b/kernel/rcu/tree.c > index d9a49cd6065a20936edbda1b334136ab597cde52..fde833bac0f9f81e8536211b4dad6e7575c1219a 100644 > --- a/kernel/rcu/tree.c > +++ b/kernel/rcu/tree.c > @@ -427,7 +427,7 @@ module_param(qovld, long, 0444); > static ulong jiffies_till_first_fqs = ULONG_MAX; > static ulong jiffies_till_next_fqs = ULONG_MAX; > static bool rcu_kick_kthreads; > -static int rcu_divisor = 7; > +static int rcu_divisor = 6; > module_param(rcu_divisor, int, 0644); > > /* Force an exit from rcu_do_batch() after 3 milliseconds. */ > To be clear, you can adjust the value without building a new kernel. echo 6 >/sys/module/rcutree/parameters/rcu_divisor