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From:   SeongJae Park <sjpark@amazon.com>
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Subject: Re: Re: Re: [PATCH net v2 0/2] Revert the 'socket_alloc' life cycle change
Date:   Tue, 5 May 2020 19:56:05 +0200
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On Tue, 5 May 2020 10:30:36 -0700 "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 07:05:53PM +0200, SeongJae Park wrote:
> > On Tue, 5 May 2020 09:37:42 -0700 Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 5/5/20 9:31 AM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On 5/5/20 9:25 AM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 5/5/20 9:13 AM, SeongJae Park wrote:
> > > >>> On Tue, 5 May 2020 09:00:44 -0700 Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 8:47 AM SeongJae Park <sjpark@amazon.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:20:50 -0700 Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On 5/5/20 8:07 AM, SeongJae Park wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> On Tue, 5 May 2020 07:53:39 -0700 Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > [...]
> > > >>
> > > >> I would ask Paul opinion on this issue, because we have many objects
> > > >> being freed after RCU grace periods.
> > > >>
> > > >> If RCU subsystem can not keep-up, I guess other workloads will also suffer.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sure, we can revert patches there and there trying to work around the issue,
> > > >> but for objects allocated from process context, we should not have these problems.
> > > >>
> > > > 
> > > > I wonder if simply adjusting rcu_divisor to 6 or 5 would help 
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tree.c b/kernel/rcu/tree.c
> > > > index d9a49cd6065a20936edbda1b334136ab597cde52..fde833bac0f9f81e8536211b4dad6e7575c1219a 100644
> > > > --- a/kernel/rcu/tree.c
> > > > +++ b/kernel/rcu/tree.c
> > > > @@ -427,7 +427,7 @@ module_param(qovld, long, 0444);
> > > >  static ulong jiffies_till_first_fqs = ULONG_MAX;
> > > >  static ulong jiffies_till_next_fqs = ULONG_MAX;
> > > >  static bool rcu_kick_kthreads;
> > > > -static int rcu_divisor = 7;
> > > > +static int rcu_divisor = 6;
> > > >  module_param(rcu_divisor, int, 0644);
> > > >  
> > > >  /* Force an exit from rcu_do_batch() after 3 milliseconds. */
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > To be clear, you can adjust the value without building a new kernel.
> > > 
> > > echo 6 >/sys/module/rcutree/parameters/rcu_divisor
> > 
> > I tried value 6, 5, and 4, but none of those removed the problem.
> 
> Thank you for checking this!
> 
> Was your earlier discussion on long RCU readers speculation, or do you
> have measurements?

It was just a guess without any measurement or dedicated investigation.


Thanks,
SeongJae Park

> 
> 							Thanx, Paul