Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932659AbWCIQYE (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Mar 2006 11:24:04 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932693AbWCIQYE (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Mar 2006 11:24:04 -0500 Received: from iriserv.iradimed.com ([69.44.168.233]:23742 "EHLO iradimed.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932659AbWCIQYA (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Mar 2006 11:24:00 -0500 Message-ID: <4410563E.9030409@cfl.rr.com> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:22:22 -0500 From: Phillip Susi User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luke-Jr CC: Jan Knutar , Anshuman Gholap , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [future of drivers?] a proposal for binary drivers. References: <200603081311.42080.jk-lkml@sci.fi> <200603091517.31121.luke@dashjr.org> In-Reply-To: <200603091517.31121.luke@dashjr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2006 16:26:16.0267 (UTC) FILETIME=[306441B0:01C64396] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-7.2.0.1122-3.52.1006-14313.000 X-TM-AS-Result: No--3.100000-5.000000-1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1742 Lines: 34 Luke-Jr wrote: > Fund a project to implement a software modem. While a "real" modem might have > better performance, softmodems are more of a raw interface which can be > better in the long run-- for example, if some new super modulation is > produced for 1mbit over regular phone lines, you could possibly just upgrade > your modem software for the new feature. You can also use the modem for voice Except that is not going to happen because there are laws of physics that must be obeyed. The phone line is encoded with 64 Kbps inside the digital phone network so there is no possible way to modulate more data than that. There is also the problem that the A/D converter ( which is all the "software modem" is -- it's basically a stripped down sound card ) only runs fast enough to support 56,000 bps. Even if it could run faster, that would place even _more_ load on the cpu. > capabilities, and have your computer act as an answering machine while you're > not using it for the internet. > (Note this is all theoretically possible, and might require actual coding to > achieve; just pointing out that softmodem isn't necessarilly worse than > hardmodems) They ARE necessarily worse than real modems in that they require a fair amount of cpu cycles to perform all the DSP. IIRC, this also has to be done in interrupt context to maintain the low latency required, which lowers the interactive responsiveness of the system - even when you are not transferring much data. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/