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From: "Dave Neuer" <mr.fred.smoothie@pobox.com>
To: "Phillip Susi" <psusi@cfl.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [future of drivers?] a proposal for binary drivers.
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On 3/9/06, Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
> That is correct, the final decision is up to a Judge, but we aren't in
> court here, we're discussing it, and so I'm making an argument that I
> believe any sane judge would side with.
>
<snip>
>
> A "derivative work" is a work based upon one or more preexisting works,
> such as a translation, musical arrangement, dramatization,
> fictionalization, motion picture version, sound recording, art
> reproduction, abridgment, condensation, or any other form in which a
> work may be recast, transformed, or adapted. A work consisting of
> editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other modifications,
> which, as a whole, represent an original work of authorship, is a
> "derivative work".
>
> No mention of either of your two conditions.

A "work based on one or more preexisting works [in] any other form in
which a work may be recast, transformed or adapted" sure sounds like
it fits someone compiling software with my symbols in it to me.
Elaboration sure sounds like it fits program code calling my program
code to me.

> You _might_ be able to
> argue that they use your headers to compile their driver, so that
> violates your copyright, but they are free to develop their own
> compatible headers to produce compatible binaries which are in no way
> derived from the Linux kernel.  See Wine's win32 compatible headers and
> libraries for examples of this.

I'm sorry, I don't think that analysis is correct for software, see
for example: http://community.linux.com/article.pl?sid=02/11/13/117247&tid=87&tid=41&tid=12&tid=42,
and Linus' previous explanations as I pointed out in my reply to
Xavier.

At any rate, at the moment I'm getting paid software, not for legal
analysis which I'm not qualified to give. I'm certainly not getting
paid enough to sue anyone, so unless some other kernel hacker or
company is planning on initiating a lawsuit (to which I'd happily
join) it's fairly moot, and I'll let it drop at that.

ciao,
Dave
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