Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:13:10 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:13:00 -0400 Received: from adsl-64-161-26-50.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net ([64.161.26.50]:36530 "EHLO linux700") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:12:41 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:13:08 -0700 From: Craig Dickson To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.20pre10 Message-ID: <20011022151308.A18638@crdic.ath.cx> In-Reply-To: <20011022142302.A17992@crdic.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Rik van Riel wrote: > So if the SSSCA gets approved and open source is outlawed > (because only software with 'approved security measures' > is allowed) Linux should stop entirely ? Nobody's suggesting that. But as long as the source code is available in the US, changelogs should also be available. I mean, let's be serious here. Kernel changelogs are NOT cookbooks for security exploits. Problems generally aren't described in anywhere near enough detail that anyone less than a kernel wizard could even figure out the exploit based on the changelog's description of the fix. So it's nonsensical to suggest that the source code is distributable without fear of prosecution, but somehow the changelog isn't. If the source code itself somehow becomes illegal, or if Alan can talk Linus into placing a geographical restriction on the distribution of Linux (which, as the trademark and copyright owner, would be within his rights), then the changelog issue will be moot. I really would like to see Linus comment on this. As a US resident, as the owner of the Linux trademark, and as the development-branch leader of kernel development, he's taking every "risk" Alan is, and more, because he's here where the FBI could arrest him if it wanted to, while Alan is thousands of miles away. So far, Linus has shown no indication, AFAIK, that he intends to censor his changelogs. Why not? Is he truly heedless of his own safety, or is he just too sensible to freak out over such an implausible scenario? Craig - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/