Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751669AbWCJPz2 (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:55:28 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751670AbWCJPz2 (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:55:28 -0500 Received: from mx.pathscale.com ([64.160.42.68]:37072 "EHLO mx.pathscale.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751669AbWCJPz1 (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:55:27 -0500 Subject: Re: Revenge of the sysfs maintainer! (was Re: [PATCH 8 of 20] ipath - sysfs support for core driver) From: "Bryan O'Sullivan" To: Arjan van de Ven Cc: Greg KH , Roland Dreier , rolandd@cisco.com, akpm@osdl.org, davem@davemloft.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, openib-general@openib.org In-Reply-To: <1141999569.2876.47.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <1141947143.10693.40.camel@serpentine.pathscale.com> <20060310003513.GA17050@suse.de> <1141951589.10693.84.camel@serpentine.pathscale.com> <20060310010050.GA9945@suse.de> <1141966693.14517.20.camel@camp4.serpentine.com> <1141977431.2876.18.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1141998702.28926.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1141999569.2876.47.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: PathScale, Inc. Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 07:55:21 -0800 Message-Id: <1142006121.29925.5.camel@serpentine.pathscale.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1294 Lines: 30 On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 15:06 +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > They mightn't be exactly today's kernels, but they're no more than two > > or three weeks old. CONFIG_DEBUG_FS has been in the kernel for a long > > time, and it's still not being picked up. > > but it's a module; you can ship it no problem yourself if you go through > the hell of shipping external modules Yes, we can ship it ourselves. But a significant point of this exercise is to have the drivers be available to people who use unmodified distros, and don't want to download other bits to do so. If Greg can get SUSE to turn on debugfs, that's great. I can ask Dave Jones or Doug Ledford or some other Fedora/RedHat kernel person to do likewise, but they're not beholden to me in any way, so god knows what my chances are :-) The "have it just work in vendor distros" notion is also why the OpenIB community as a whole is focusing on rolling out a 1.0 release of the IB userspace code, so that people can expect their distros to simply work with Infiniband hardware.