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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 16:39:02 -0700
To: Steven Walter <srwalter@yahoo.com>, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
From: Jonathan Lundell <jlundell@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.20pre10
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At 5:45 PM -0500 10/22/01, Steven Walter wrote:
>On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 09:34:28PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
>>  > On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 01:29:14PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
>>  > >    "Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after
>>  > >     they have rebelled they cannot become conscious."
>>  >
>>  > While I've been generally saddened by Alan Cox's and others
>>  > anti-America attitude,  I am somewhat surprised to find that
>>  > Alan believes the US bombing of Afghanistan is justified and so
>>  > is the collateral damage as they call it.
>>
>>  That quote is rather older than the US bombing of Afghanistan. You read
>>  totally inappropriate things into it.
>
>Certainly, it is not.  This statement applies to Afghanistan, in that
>the fact that they have not rebelled means they imply consent to
>everything their government does, and therefore are just as guilty as
>the Taliban.  Therefore, killing civilians (collateral damage) is no
>worse than killing terrorists or Taliban officials.  This is a stance I
>can easily subscribe to, not just with Afghanistan but with any people,
>nation, state, or country.

That seems like a willful misreading of the original. Where did you 
get "consent"? Alan suggests that non-rebellion implies lack of 
consciousness, which doesn't imply consent.

-- 
/Jonathan Lundell.
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