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Tue, 12 May 2020 15:45:17 +0000 Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] arch/x86: Rename config X86_INTEL_MEMORY_PROTECTION_KEYS to generic x86 To: Dave Hansen , corbet@lwn.net, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, hpa@zytor.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, sean.j.christopherson@intel.com Cc: x86@kernel.org, vkuznets@redhat.com, wanpengli@tencent.com, jmattson@google.com, joro@8bytes.org, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, luto@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, mchehab+samsung@kernel.org, changbin.du@intel.com, namit@vmware.com, bigeasy@linutronix.de, yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com, asteinhauser@google.com, anshuman.khandual@arm.com, jan.kiszka@siemens.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, steven.price@arm.com, rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com, peterx@redhat.com, dan.j.williams@intel.com, arjunroy@google.com, logang@deltatee.com, thellstrom@vmware.com, aarcange@redhat.com, justin.he@arm.com, robin.murphy@arm.com, ira.weiny@intel.com, keescook@chromium.org, jgross@suse.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com, pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com, fenghua.yu@intel.com, vineela.tummalapalli@intel.com, yamada.masahiro@socionext.com, sam@ravnborg.org, acme@redhat.com, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org References: <158923982830.20128.14580309786525588408.stgit@naples-babu.amd.com> <158923997443.20128.16545619590919566266.stgit@naples-babu.amd.com> <4984c0af-c20b-7084-9bca-5cb6bf385180@amd.com> <1f4fa674-5709-ad88-c7ae-1bf5584a5b82@intel.com> From: Babu Moger Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 10:45:14 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; 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X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData: wM/uGjswwTSvaNZVX7IuITWBd5SVXOzXGzDBg2+q3Oo1SmzLBDJmTvu8eNBfbwk0IeN7vQ4U2RpF/znHuVDyqdUvnzYzwAvf0s6UeuJQlmGLdCdLbBrztuGvRq/LGZtj9JjLglBpvBK8B1D1B1q4spZojChjPoHvz9yGFTwxlArTAN2M4r85Qp5wLzy63Vas9KbeDYLTT7Co98ZMhpNZgq001qgpv7kbSOSRy9VHfx1wbDzt/Oh1aUTxwhnpEEOb4jEqVhPfl7OR6IjCBwVAXvr3v41LsEytcS9AQQMdQYKxdEnG2J0OtLnYkV/NFiguTPvRQyiRI+rPFpZqWvSBxpMrQe3Q1CkSh8+Koki+O9hDd+hROnBoJi0HIiZnpD2hnK5m0VFVat8+atpTxfUiZowNguXl/e6rPCuq9bc0OUGC2H8fqvwXjkQAvaTflP1/9YjMEshPCgeMJ2MKO5PauO3IoVcQiV+pE3bC1Ck9yAM= X-OriginatorOrg: amd.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 89347c56-43f3-4b08-f22c-08d7f68b77c9 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 May 2020 15:45:16.9983 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: 3dd8961f-e488-4e60-8e11-a82d994e183d X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-MailboxType: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-UserPrincipalName: qvfcxAxnlB4nGCi3dLfrXYqBWQ4QooAOG3t86wt521XmFPu08QRb7GJe7cWcCHUr X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: SN1PR12MB2576 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 5/12/20 10:19 AM, Dave Hansen wrote: > On 5/12/20 7:57 AM, Babu Moger wrote: >>> I was hoping to see at least *some* justification in this changelog. Do >>> you think having "INTEL_" will confuse users? Is there some technical >>> merit to this change? >>> >>> The naming churn is an obviously bad, not technically necessary change. >> Yes. Technically not necessary. But can cause some confusion on non-intel >> platforms. > > Seriously, guys, this is buried deep in kernel code. Who is this confusing? > > To me, this is like anything else we rename in the kernel. It causes > churn, which makes patches harder to backport for instance. That's why > we don't rename things willy-nilly when we just don't like the names. > > The naming has to cause some practical, real-world problem that we *FIX* > with the rename. > > I'm just asking for a concrete, practical problem statement in the > changelog. If there isn't one, then please don't do the rename. The > Kconfig magic is still fine since it fixes a practical problem for end > users. > Alright. Alright. I will just keep Kconfig magic and update the documentation(protection-keys.rst). Thanks