Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:31:15 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:31:06 -0400 Received: from virtucon.warpcore.org ([216.81.249.22]:13443 "EHLO virtucon") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:30:57 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 20:31:59 -0500 From: drevil@warpcore.org To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: 2.4.13-pre6 breaks Nvidia's kernel module Message-ID: <20011022203159.A20411@virtucon.warpcore.org> Mail-Followup-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20011022172742.B445@virtucon.warpcore.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 11:50:59PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > I can't debug Nvidia's code even to see why it might have broken. Its as > simple as that - no politics, no agenda on them opening it, simple technical > statement of fact. On one side I can see this, on the other I can't. For example, no matter how many times a user visits windows update, chances are his drivers will still work with his current version of windows. Admittedly, some may not consider this a feature, but I think a lot do. Why should a 'stable' kernel series break existing drivers? > I really doubt Nvidia will open their driver code. I've heard them explain > some of the reasons they don't and in part they make complete sense. Microsoft deals with companies that won't always give them access to the drivers directly, but often they will tell users workarounds, or at least attempt to gather enough knowledge since they are tehnically the OS vendor to give to the driver provider to fix the problem. If you are the OS provider, and a change you make breaks user drivers/programs generally I think it's a polite gesture to at least attempt to find out what's going on and then pass that information on to the people who can properly handle it... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/