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Subject: Re: 2.4.13-pre6 breaks Nvidia's kernel module
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:44:41 -0700
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----- Original Message -----
From: <drevil@warpcore.org>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: 2.4.13-pre6 breaks Nvidia's kernel module


> On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 09:43:24PM -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> > Really?  Sure as hell hasn't been my experience.  Oh!  That only
> > works with Windows 95!  Ok, now you can get the driver to support
Windows
> > 98 but it won't support Windows NT (got one RIGHT NOW like that).  Oops,
> > you upgraded to Windows 2000, can't support that with that driver, we
> > don't have a driver for that yet.  Windows XP, sorry, we don't have the
> > Windows XP certified driver, yet, try back in a few months.
>
> > Think that's a joke?  I think it's pathetic and it is EXACTLY
> > what I have experienced with multimedia cards, scanners, and printers.
>
> > Why would Windows XP break all the non-MS Windows 2000 drivers
> > (don't you dare tell me it didn't, I work at a place that got slammed by
> > their shit).  Why would things that work on Windows 98 (Delorme Eartha
> > DVD) not work on Windows NT or Windows 2000.  The Windows mess is a
swamp
> > out there of what drivers work with what version (some don't even work
> > between the original editions and updated editions - Windows 95 had
> > three editions that I have in hand).
>
> Hmm...where did I say once that the user upgraded their version of
windows?
> Note, I said windows 'update', not windows 'upgrade'. Theoretically, based
off
> the whole "odd", "even", "stable", "unstable" numbering system that was
given,
> Kernel 2.4.x should be one 'version', and should not randomly break
> programs/drivers during it's 'completely bugfix' development? I wonder how
much
> more driver support we might see under Linux if it didn't break
compatability
> with existing drivers so much...

look buddy, you don't get it
without access to nvidia's source, we can't know what it does, where it does
it, and what we can break by doing what to the kernel
WE CAN NOT KNOW SO WE CAN NOT PREVENT IT
it is THAT simple
complain to nvidia, not the people that CAN NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT

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