Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750797AbWCNKqV (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:46:21 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751418AbWCNKqV (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:46:21 -0500 Received: from cindy.kollegienet.dk ([130.226.80.138]:50919 "EHLO mail.odense.kollegienet.dk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750797AbWCNKqV (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:46:21 -0500 From: Elias Naur Organization: Oddlabs ApS To: Arjan van de Ven Subject: Re: [PATCH] Expose input device usages to userspace Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:46:04 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 Cc: Dmitry Torokhov , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <200603132154.38876.elias@oddlabs.com> <200603140821.32301.elias@oddlabs.com> <1142324558.3027.10.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> In-Reply-To: <1142324558.3027.10.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200603141146.04270.elias@oddlabs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-FKO-MailScanner: No virus found X-FKO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-MailScanner-From: elias@oddlabs.com Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1455 Lines: 32 On Tuesday 14 March 2006 09:22, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > No, I don't think this is needed at all - users should be interested in > > > what capabilities a particular device has, not what type it was > > > assigned by soneone. > > > > I see your point that an application should not rely too much on device > > usages. However, the main reason I want device usages is to help > > applications and users identify and (visually) represent devices. For > > example, games could show an appropriate icon graphic representing each > > active device. The event interface already has a few other ioctls for > > this kind of information: > > ok then you should consider to do it the other way around: make a way of > asking > "are you matching THIS profile". > rather than > "what profile are you" > > that way devices can present multiple faces etc; which is going to be > needed as more and more weird devices come into existence. If by profile you mean a device usage like Mouse, Keyboard, Joystick etc. is your proposal covered by the bit field ioctl exposed by my patch? For example, a device can already expose itself as both a joystick and a mouse (see the hid-input.c changes from the patch). - elias - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/