Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751656AbWCOWrU (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:47:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751970AbWCOWrU (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:47:20 -0500 Received: from mail.dvmed.net ([216.237.124.58]:34955 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751656AbWCOWrT (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:47:19 -0500 Message-ID: <4418996E.6010808@garzik.org> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:47:10 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.1.fc4 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dax Kelson CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "linux-ide@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: Warning - Maxtor SATA II and Nvidia nforce4 References: <1142461887.2521.44.camel@station14.example.com> In-Reply-To: <1142461887.2521.44.camel@station14.example.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1723 Lines: 50 Ah, I see this made it to LKML :) Dax Kelson wrote: > Short version > ============== > Nvidia Nforce4 chipset with Maxtor SATA II drives with certain firmware > revisions cause data corruption and system instability when under > moderate to heavy I/O load. I'm a bit suspicious of this. Looking at the link, there are three problem areas and two problem blame targets implied: Data corruption -> blame nvidia driver NCQ -> blame nvidia driver Detection -> blame maxtor firmware The first one likely applies to the Windows driver not Linux's sata_nv, and thus irrelevant here. The second one OBVIOUSLY applies only to Windows, since sata_nv (and libata itself) don't yet enable NCQ. The third one could potentially apply to Linux. Lastly, your mention of "nforce fake raid" almost certainly indicates Windows or proprietary drivers. Therefore, I ask: * are you reporting a only drive detection problem? * why are you reporting unrelated Windows problems to a Linux list? * if you are indeed reporting a problem on Linux, where is the kernel and driver version info, as requested in REPORTING-BUGS? * and can you provide such info *and reproduce the problems* without proprietary drivers loaded? Your email is just a list of highly general symptoms. Your link seems to indicate two NV driver bugs on Windows, and a Maxtor firmware upgrade for undescribed detection problems. My recommended action for users is: 1) Avoid Windows. 2) Don't panic. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/