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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id d3si783306ejc.374.2020.05.26.16.25.08; Tue, 26 May 2020 16:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=fail header.i=@infradead.org header.s=merlin.20170209 header.b=RuZlvMn8; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2390283AbgEZUCo (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 26 May 2020 16:02:44 -0400 Received: from merlin.infradead.org ([205.233.59.134]:58926 "EHLO merlin.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728113AbgEZUCo (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 May 2020 16:02:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=merlin.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=vLR9eBAiLYEUKwprcJXh81uedkl9DNMlOvuRu7LvBis=; b=RuZlvMn80VurInOVh3nLd0nRe3 Y7yAHKOXTj4q11Y0AFuKtwl092FpvUOO9mwUoSSfDX+dMPSUSj8eAoaCfP84b/7/fv0YN1+xUVyjd U1lK99hA6Tm/nCbZWgti+CRELnvAfK9exDx5pugAJnPVEGxhsPoU1+EQ2sGhpA6WYhYanlTAbkYLq ZpVTVSDXS+M0wg0YjPAnxFDUkANX4qCvPcfM8qhv97vPPF2TMXyle/a1SiIJ5sPi4cGZ/R90OICNq 47zv+pR8c+cxTXlekgr09/00Sve2tZasrWS1AYmE1QlbvuH2IdleD11LgwySpzlAXKp8axG6DSjJ1 rxH5lnSQ==; Received: from j217100.upc-j.chello.nl ([24.132.217.100] helo=noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1jdfkN-00059M-CD; Tue, 26 May 2020 20:00:23 +0000 Received: from hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net (hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net [192.168.1.225]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FFEB3079B8; Tue, 26 May 2020 22:00:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: by hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D5BA32B975366; Tue, 26 May 2020 22:00:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 22:00:15 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Valentin Schneider Cc: Jens Axboe , Ingo Molnar , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Stefano Garzarella Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: don't NUMA balance for kthreads Message-ID: <20200526200015.GG325280@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <865de121-8190-5d30-ece5-3b097dc74431@kernel.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 05:40:06PM +0100, Valentin Schneider wrote: > > Change the task_tick_numa() check to exclude kernel threads in general, > > as it doesn't make sense to attempt ot balance for kthreads anyway. > > > > Does it? (this isn't a rethorical question) > > Suppose a given kthread ends up doing more accesses to some pages > (via use_mm()) than the other threads that access them, wouldn't it make > sense to take that into account when it comes to NUMA balancing? Well, task_tick_numa() tries and farm off a bunch of actual work to task_work_add(), and there's so very little userspace for a kernel thread to return to... :-)