Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750813AbWCRQLi (ORCPT ); Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:11:38 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751341AbWCRQLi (ORCPT ); Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:11:38 -0500 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:56019 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750813AbWCRQLh (ORCPT ); Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:11:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Idea: Automatic binary driver compiling system From: Arjan van de Ven To: Benjamin Bach Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <441C2CF6.1050607@overtag.dk> References: <441AF93C.6040407@overtag.dk> <1142620509.25258.53.camel@mindpipe> <441C213A.3000404@overtag.dk> <1142694655.2889.22.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <441C2CF6.1050607@overtag.dk> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 17:11:32 +0100 Message-Id: <1142698292.2889.26.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1584 Lines: 44 On Sat, 2006-03-18 at 16:53 +0100, Benjamin Bach wrote: > Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > there are over a thousand open source drivers, and at most a handful > > binary ones. Please go do your math. > > > You're doing the wrong comparison. How many drivers are missing not too many. This is largely because hardware interfaces are getting increasingly standardized (it's cheaper for the hw vendors to not have to create a new driver for Windows XP) > or > lacking in ability? some. But the vast majority is "good enough" by any standard. > And if you add to your handful of binary drivers > those thousands that exist for xp... then it's clear that linux is better off ;) (and yes while XP has more drivers, in linux a driver would generally drive the hardware that in the windows world uses 10 to 20 drivers) > well, numbers do change. Also, most open source drivers aren't made by > the vendors themselves. and? For standard interfaces... no big deal. And for non-standard interfaces.. it's increasingly done with the vendor help > > We're doing subjective math here. It doesn't change the fact that Linux > would be better off with improved hardware support, right? yes. But "more binary drivers" is absolutely not "better off"; but that's going towards the usual bimonthly troll topic so lets not go there and stop here. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/