Received: by 2002:a25:ef43:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id w3csp371761ybm; Thu, 28 May 2020 05:08:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxIoo3gERNvzCa4/RfU2ZYTgrDdL8EehZDyQ9DKeYHd7erJlmhV+PxAiMEY0iLhSfvOHHzA X-Received: by 2002:aa7:ca49:: with SMTP id j9mr2875404edt.186.1590667711984; Thu, 28 May 2020 05:08:31 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1590667711; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=qhvkdiXv5dJr8djeB7B9dN08hrL3X2GdQYIw+jS3Ri6mi0oAqTgTYNh0CBHUzXzERx tVuAr7Jkpg3BsWaCdjR7Qox4ujWE8kkJ76yp8hvH5w60MP1/q3NdIrOr2aJah5zJgKdn ZLrC6wA96xZLWXVLD09u+OCl5I/FiomU3FP5XfQTOOXoOp5yLyRoe5Z4p+EZ8OhiBO2p NQZR2qh8ljzooY/xci1F015zwBEKOXpnk5w124u+2EnKIeCGYUNCb5X3uI6/tYgoFMZa +t2XOTIazIvPdqPq0xSuyXAI9eNCvCJd4iFnOxZFmfPEr19t696ZkPlVjjAH02G39wOj QRKA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:mime-version:message-id:date:references :in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from; bh=fzvKEJO8DwPeMwu/0Z4tZXFFS0kCTiaI7TQ6XUzHoOE=; b=bMypxzapRGgU36G/XcCd8pd+Cs3yhAANpW00aqDCy5vohTwWk1DYB5cXAcXpzrn5x4 eNTKxZQIFRr2azTsVbm9NkK3AV8W+4XT4QOt43MF+oBQuCAsFVLEBnGDYqLdU8GuVZ7q jwiYBjkZmHVRXotvMThbpXDL+VGI/1K3aBiBqbOLS2IEwTtG5i6oeZ0P08nTN2xpVvnn Lk8QZ7NoSyBj2TNMD+xo1v31DIQo2LyGOdV1/DVg94cGm+ZELP+Zx+cY8FzXXYWS1/U7 DGeQN+kYIKiLnGAzLom02gRVe5ntK4oqjjbcFX3aB2w+v3Cxqs5IVbix8l0zDLei6y8B chgw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id j22si3166806edt.526.2020.05.28.05.08.08; Thu, 28 May 2020 05:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2389365AbgE1MGc (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 28 May 2020 08:06:32 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:47962 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S2389059AbgE1MG2 (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 May 2020 08:06:28 -0400 Received: from Galois.linutronix.de (Galois.linutronix.de [IPv6:2a0a:51c0:0:12e:550::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAB29C05BD1E for ; Thu, 28 May 2020 05:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p5de0bf0b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([93.224.191.11] helo=nanos.tec.linutronix.de) by Galois.linutronix.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1jeHIg-0006Uf-J5; Thu, 28 May 2020 14:06:18 +0200 Received: by nanos.tec.linutronix.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 09E65100D01; Thu, 28 May 2020 14:06:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Thomas Gleixner To: Peter Zijlstra , Paul Menzel Cc: x86@kernel.org, LKML Subject: Re: TSC problems with Acer TravelMate 5735Z In-Reply-To: <20200524185800.GV325280@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20200524185800.GV325280@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 14:06:17 +0200 Message-ID: <874ks0p8li.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Linutronix-Spam-Score: -1.0 X-Linutronix-Spam-Level: - X-Linutronix-Spam-Status: No , -1.0 points, 5.0 required, ALL_TRUSTED=-1,SHORTCIRCUIT=-0.0001 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Peter Zijlstra writes: > On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 07:09:18PM +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: >> Dear Linux folks, >> >> >> I got my hands on an old Acer TravelMate 5735Z (Intel GM45/Cantiga) and >> installed Debian Sid/unstable with Linux 5.6.7 on it. >> >> Booting the system it takes a long time, and the systemd units fail to >> start. The logs contain that the TSC is unstable. Adding `tsc=unstable` to >> the Linux kernel command line fixes this. > > It fixes nothing; it just doesn't get you the warning because you told > it upfront. Well, it prevents the kernel to use TSC upfront and not wait until it's discovered to be crap. That might make a difference. Thanks, tglx