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From:   Don Porter <porter@cs.unc.edu>
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Date:   Thu, 28 May 2020 13:37:27 -0400
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On 5/26/20 6:51 PM, Sasha Levin wrote:
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 06:03:35PM -0400, Don Porter wrote:
>> On 5/26/20 4:27 PM, Sasha Levin wrote:
>>> I'm really worried about the disconnect between how you view the current
>>> state of Graphene (and the industry) vs Intel and the various cloud
>>> providers.
>>>
> 
> Sorry, I wasn't trying to suggest that all cloud vendors are pushing
> Graphene, but rather than SGX enabled platforms became a commodity
> product, users will end up using Graphene-like applications.
> 
> Let me provide an example:
> https://www.alibabacloud.com/blog/protecting-go-language-applications-with-the-graphene-library-os-on-intel%C2%AE-sgx%C2%AE-secured-alibaba-cloud_594889 
> 
> - a "practical" guide on how to run Graphene in production environment
>    on one of the big cloud vendor platforms.

You have convinced me there is a concerning disconnect here, and we need 
to be proactive as a project to correct this.  We are adding warnings to 
the project with all due haste.