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Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc/nvram: Replace kmalloc with kzalloc in the error message
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Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com> writes:
> On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 09:23:57PM +1000, Michael Ellerman wrote:
>> Markus Elfring <Markus.Elfring@web.de> writes:
>> >>>> Please just remove the message instead, it's a tiny allocation that=
's
>> >>>> unlikely to ever fail, and the caller will print an error anyway.
>> >>>
>> >>> How do you think about to take another look at a previous update sug=
gestion
>> >>> like the following?
>> >>>
>> >>> powerpc/nvram: Delete three error messages for a failed memory alloc=
ation
>> >>> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/linuxppc-dev/patch/00845261-852=
8-d011-d3b8-e9355a231d3a@users.sourceforge.net/
>> >>> https://lore.kernel.org/linuxppc-dev/00845261-8528-d011-d3b8-e9355a2=
31d3a@users.sourceforge.net/
>> >>> https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/752720/
>> >>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/1/19/537
>> >>
>> >> That deleted the messages from nvram_scan_partitions(), but neither of
>> >> the callers of nvram_scan_paritions() check its return value or print
>> >> anything if it fails. So removing those messages would make those
>> >> failures silent which is not what we want.
>> >
>> > * How do you think about information like the following?
>> >   https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/t=
ree/Documentation/process/coding-style.rst?id=3Df359287765c04711ff54fbd1164=
5271d8e5ff763#n883
>> > =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6
>> > These generic allocation functions all emit a stack dump on failure wh=
en used
>> > without __GFP_NOWARN so there is no use in emitting an additional fail=
ure
>> > message when NULL is returned.
>> > =E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D
>>=20
>> Are you sure that's actually true?
>>=20
>> A quick look around in slub.c leads me to:
>>=20
>> slab_out_of_memory(struct kmem_cache *s, gfp_t gfpflags, int nid)
>> {
>> #ifdef CONFIG_SLUB_DEBUG
>
> You first have to enable EXPERT mode before you can disable SLUB_DEBUG.

I see ~175 defconfigs with CONFIG_EXPERT=3Dy, so that's not really a high
bar unfortunately.

And there's 38 defconfigs with SLUB_DEBUG=3Dn.

So for kernels built with those defconfigs that documentation is plain
wrong and misleading.

And then there's SLOB which doesn't dump stack anywhere AFAICS.

In fact slab_out_of_memory() doesn't emit a stack dump either, it just
prints a bunch of slab related info!

> So that hopefully means you *really* want to save memory.  It doesn't
> make sense to add a bunch of memory wasting printks when the users want
> to go to extra lengths to conserve memory.

I agree that in many cases those printks are just a waste of space in
the source and the binary and should be removed.

But I dislike being told "these generic allocation functions all emit a
stack dump" only to find out that actually they don't, they print some
other debug info, and depending on config settings they actually don't
print _anything_.

cheers