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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 89si1415011edo.209.2020.06.04.04.11.23; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 04:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726150AbgFDLIi (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 4 Jun 2020 07:08:38 -0400 Received: from smtprelay0052.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.52]:40118 "EHLO smtprelay.hostedemail.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725881AbgFDLIh (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Jun 2020 07:08:37 -0400 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (clb03-v110.bra.tucows.net [216.40.38.60]) by smtprelay07.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B734181D3030; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:08:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 6A6F6540706572636865732E636F6D X-Spam-Summary: 50,0,0,,d41d8cd98f00b204,joe@perches.com,,RULES_HIT:41:355:379:599:960:967:973:988:989:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2393:2525:2553:2560:2563:2682:2685:2691:2693:2828:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3354:3622:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4321:5007:7775:7903:9025:10004:10400:10848:11232:11658:11914:12043:12294:12297:12663:12679:12740:12760:12895:13069:13161:13229:13255:13311:13357:13439:14096:14097:14181:14659:14721:21080:21451:21627:21939:30054:30070:30090:30091,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0,LFtime:14,LUA_SUMMARY:none X-HE-Tag: sand99_0e162d926d96 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 3513 Received: from XPS-9350.home (unknown [47.151.136.130]) (Authenticated sender: joe@perches.com) by omf18.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:08:34 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <10e54ee84bd44171ef329bed9e7e6a946bae61ba.camel@perches.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH] pinctrl: pxa: pxa2xx: Remove 'pxa2xx_pinctrl_exit()' which is unused and broken From: Joe Perches To: Julia Lawall Cc: Dan Carpenter , Linus Walleij , Christophe JAILLET , Robert Jarzmik , Daniel Mack , Haojian Zhuang , Linux ARM , "open list:GPIO SUBSYSTEM" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2020 04:08:32 -0700 In-Reply-To: References: <20200531073716.593343-1-christophe.jaillet@wanadoo.fr> <87h7vvb1s3.fsf@belgarion.home> <20200601183102.GS30374@kadam> <20200604083120.GF22511@kadam> <2aa49a543e6f48a6f428a37b63a06f9149870225.camel@perches.com> <32232229031e02edcc268b1074c9bac44012ee35.camel@perches.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" User-Agent: Evolution 3.36.2-0ubuntu1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 2020-06-04 at 12:33 +0200, Julia Lawall wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Joe Perches wrote: > > > On Thu, 2020-06-04 at 11:52 +0200, Julia Lawall wrote: > > > Should Fixes also be used when the change will make it hard to port other > > > fixes over it? > > > > If it's a logic defect or regression that's being fixed, > > shouldn't the logic defect or regression be fixed as > > reasonably soon as possible? > > Sure, but I recall seeing some patches that mentioned that the problem had > existed since the beginning of git. Of course, it should be rare. git history goes back 15 years already. There are scant few bugs that old. There is a tree with even older history that Rob Landley still has here: https://landley.net/kdocs/fullhist/ It does make git blame research a bit easier for those rare and extremely old defects. > > The nature of the fix should ideally be optimal for > > backporting, but I believe that should not stop any > > consideration for the standalone fix itself. > > I'm not sure to follow this. I think it comes down to defects in current need to be fixed. Describing the base commit that is being fixed is useful for backporting. I believe it's not reasonable to ask the author of a fix to research how it could or should be backported. > Sometimes non-bug fixes that block > backporting a bug fix have to be backported as well. So the fixes would > again highlight the range of versions affected by the issue. Sure, but the non-bug fixes that may also need backporting to enable easy backports of the actual fix should not be described in the Fixes: as those are generally easily researched from a command like: $ git log .. by whoever needs to backport.