Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932334AbWCURDO (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:03:14 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751220AbWCURDO (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:03:14 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.192.82]:23714 "EHLO rwcrmhc12.comcast.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751331AbWCURDN (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:03:13 -0500 Message-ID: <44203179.3090606@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:01:45 -0500 From: John Richard Moser User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5 (X11/20060309) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Lifetime of flash memory X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2850 Lines: 60 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have a kind of dumb question. I keep hearing that "USB Flash Memory" or "Compact Flash Cards" and family have "a limited number of writes" and will eventually wear out. Recommendations like "DO NOT PUT A SWAP FILE ON USB MEMORY" have come out of this. In fact, quoting Documentation/laptop-mode.txt: * If you're worried about your data, you might want to consider using a USB memory stick or something like that as a "working area". (Be aware though that flash memory can only handle a limited number of writes, and overuse may wear out your memory stick pretty quickly. Do _not_ use journalling filesystems on flash memory sticks.) The question I have is, is this really significant? I have heard quoted that flash memory typically handles something like 3x10^18 writes; and that compact flash cards, USB drives, SD cards, and family typically have integrated control chipsets that include wear-leveling algorithms (built-in flash like in an iPaq does not; hence jffs2). Should we really care that in about 95 billion years the thing will wear out (assuming we write its entire capacity once a second)? I call FUD. - -- All content of all messages exchanged herein are left in the Public Domain, unless otherwise explicitly stated. Creative brains are a valuable, limited resource. They shouldn't be wasted on re-inventing the wheel when there are so many fascinating new problems waiting out there. -- Eric Steven Raymond We will enslave their women, eat their children and rape their cattle! -- Evil alien overlord from Blasto -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBRCAxdws1xW0HCTEFAQJd6w//auD2v3RJYxTbUePJwXFriCTO2d35+uo1 xU80/Brd7Hkdn82hfk/Rozoj6zsZFYYpYqqDhvo0aOKUW/cxZhTymXlEUgNXx0k+ s2hkVM4+nXoJhQhFuLk3/bPXBQlu20xA1tt6pHMscIfavijPSn7aV7gPx+L+SpDD VqGdsmynt68IRk09b9su0gsfuM0OxYrjVAXPN5l+cjzlEk+fyHGIALu26UwiL+31 Gs86zviWaX1MwK5G0IZQ0ITySG/wNGoMNcbSdbm/45r0JnLhHPQjX2WGwIh7t5Y2 UeoYLRZJ5gRF9PT0yP5tMy0XXhKpj0aEtl8ccB/aeOCPsUKAC+2K2SFCfZLZCj8x GOGeJKsutim+H+Qec/lnOng1LYoA9fJaisGzAUEOHYhFuYOioPVvGBKiRQlX6mMf ofCAIOwtzWgxTa4kJrhU3oF0DYhLtP7Je/LCQW0RqmnMrXcR23/AwBa5fHTzhW1C Mb6eL1TtYPYoyoBcKKYgKMmXLXu4d2klgxM4RRpcCrVfrupsHXr5VSzt+XYf7twX TnY6DhmVVqp1YIVbWPXbNHplQuOU7ywdu+Y7q75jywqFBxGqeo+mPoL8ItW3IthZ /zaoJVUH+n0FyydC+FYJ3SWx7AkPx46hZmO2UQmVlOAq2Fuc8I3haaOIQmADt0Ar pwGzS3E92J0= =48mD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/