Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932314AbWCURaU (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:30:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932354AbWCURaT (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:30:19 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.192.81]:3022 "EHLO rwcrmhc11.comcast.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932314AbWCURaQ (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:30:16 -0500 Message-ID: <442037D2.7060109@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:28:50 -0500 From: John Richard Moser User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5 (X11/20060309) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Vrabel CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Lifetime of flash memory References: <44203179.3090606@comcast.net> <44203468.9060806@cantab.net> In-Reply-To: <44203468.9060806@cantab.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2902 Lines: 70 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 David Vrabel wrote: > John Richard Moser wrote: >> The question I have is, is this really significant? I have heard quoted >> that flash memory typically handles something like 3x10^18 writes; > > That's like, uh, 13 orders of magnitudes out... > Yeah I did more searching, it looks like that was a mass overstatement. There was one company that did claim to have developed flash memory with that size (I think it was 3.8x10^18) but it looks like typical drives are 1.0x10^6 with an on-chip wear-leveling algorithm. Assuming the drive is like 256 megs with 64k blocks, that's still 129 years at one write per second. Bigger drives of course level over larger area and lifetime increases linearly. My 512M drive should last 260 years in that scheme; a 4 gig iPod Nano would last 2080 years; and a 30GiB flash-based hard disk in a Samsung laptop on a single control chip doing the wear leveling over multiple NAND chips would last 15600 years. In theory anyway. And assuming one write on one block per one second on average for the duration. (obviously the iPod nano sustains many times less than that and will last hundreds of thousands of years in normal usage). > David Vrabel > - -- All content of all messages exchanged herein are left in the Public Domain, unless otherwise explicitly stated. Creative brains are a valuable, limited resource. They shouldn't be wasted on re-inventing the wheel when there are so many fascinating new problems waiting out there. -- Eric Steven Raymond We will enslave their women, eat their children and rape their cattle! -- Evil alien overlord from Blasto -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBRCA30As1xW0HCTEFAQIELQ//TjtHD2EIh+DphWoe10MyAwt/MsWjdJEL UWir35umv6gta6tnv4cI92PquSMAzyqeGcEe5l1Yhi9nGTe5jWqiiwxg8tVfaecq Lf04pt53N9nVYR+lGd7DxDEq3ZCYeQKcE1hY3pnP3IHEnayfEHGl6zb8rTWEeKxm o6miFUQoxVOXqcTHD8bLLJAJcTBsLn1IO6gAS9/WA4tvTYo4471E0m+ORY7WgFYK /3fpq5a+PgbKkcTjRJdODaxhAROIjElwkTCPtjr/3wpjelOl1BpuTRzl8HxpAmEN 9Ybnophs6SnLeccE2WIW6PNC/cjgkyiZigOLE0EWBflJaM5ij9ZeW7Ju/FSxjhYK e2YB6SrREFJ4Gs4eXOvzPy658JE+kbr1OtO3TIfJFykGY2tTsBvtKPvWGdFx2IJt Znp+4vNcOtCO8Wd7uoMv+Sewk7AmqSpB5VPt64UZqGudM94Z3YDkdnUM7FjLkeng ank4DFmzjKln2etmDo+25orQbSbPxR8UNRuWJCjOS0NTNN57fiMyIsqsSFFcuqsO Ud8fwqvsrSLhXs1xzSxsWMvcZm/RsAgvOPAp+oajCjLVEvP2alRoLtu/yGmRgwEk e2+Sa1zrAh2qZv2az0JLVr3gWfjRoKcn39QkF9rmiNpmr3Rf6Jx8PYjF1jYN2UDt 3j34unpH2gM= =sTVH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/