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[198.145.64.163]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o96sm3319015pjo.13.2020.06.09.12.29.55 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 09 Jun 2020 12:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 12:29:54 -0700 From: Kees Cook To: David Miller Cc: stephen@networkplumber.org, o.rempel@pengutronix.de, andrew@lunn.ch, f.fainelli@gmail.com, hkallweit1@gmail.com, kuba@kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net, mkubecek@suse.cz, linville@tuxdriver.com, david@protonic.nl, kernel@pengutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux@armlinux.org.uk, mkl@pengutronix.de, marex@denx.de, christian.herber@nxp.com, amitc@mellanox.com, petrm@mellanox.com Subject: Re: [PATCH ethtool v1] netlink: add master/slave configuration support Message-ID: <202006091222.CB97F743AD@keescook> References: <20200607153019.3c8d6650@hermes.lan> <20200607.164532.964293508393444353.davem@davemloft.net> <20200609101935.5716b3bd@hermes.lan> <20200609.113633.1866761141966326637.davem@davemloft.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200609.113633.1866761141966326637.davem@davemloft.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 11:36:33AM -0700, David Miller wrote: > From: Stephen Hemminger > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 10:19:35 -0700 > > > Yes, words do matter and convey a lot of implied connotation and > > meaning. > > What is your long term plan? Will you change all of the UAPI for > bonding for example? > > Or will we have a partial solution to the problem? As a first step, let's stop _adding_ this language. Given what I've seen from other communities and what I know of the kernel community, I don't think we're going to get consensus on some massive global search/replace any time soon. However, I think we can get started on making this change with just stopping further introductions. (I view this like any other treewide change: stop new badness from getting added, and chip away as old ones as we can until it's all gone.) -- Kees Cook