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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200614212911.GB24529@amd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 14. 06. 20, 23:29, Pavel Machek wrote: >> I agree you have to draw the line somewhere, there will always be >> someone somewhere that's offended by something. But this seems like a >> pretty easy case. Yes, hence I left up to the minority and/or the touched culture. >> It's not like blacklist / whitelist are even good to begin with, it's >> not obvious which is which, you have to learn that black is bad and >> white is good. >> >> Blocklist (or denylist?) and allowlist are actually more descriptive and >> less likely to cause confusion. > > You do not understand how word "blacklist" is used inside the kernel, > do you? Do a quick grep. And now, do the same for "blocklist". And is "denylist" a proper word? As grep gives zarro results... It's not that easy to find alternatives. OTOH, admittedly, "blacklist" is used improperly in some contexts. Some synonyms fit better. thanks, -- js suse labs