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Date:   Tue, 16 Jun 2020 21:02:54 +0300
From:   Andi Shyti <andi.shyti@intel.com>
To:     Sultan Alsawaf <sultan@kerneltoast.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] HID: i2c-hid: Use block reads when possible to save
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Hi Sultan,

> > > > so the only strategy available up until now has been to always retrieve
> > > > the maximum possible report length over i2c, which can be quite
> > > > inefficient. For devices that send reports in block read format, the i2c
> > > > controller driver can read the payload length on the fly and terminate
> > > > the i2c transaction early, resulting in considerable power savings.
> > > > 
> > > > On a Dell Precision 15 5540 with an i9-9880H, resting my finger on the
> > > > touchpad causes psys power readings to go up by about 4W and hover there
> > > > until I remove my finger. With this patch, my psys readings go from 4.7W
> > > > down to 3.1W, yielding about 1.6W in savings. This is because my
> > > > touchpad's max report length is 60 bytes, but all of the regular reports
> > > > it sends for touch events are only 32 bytes, so the i2c transfer is
> > > > roughly halved for the common case.
> > > 
> > > > +	/* Try to do a block read if the size fits in one byte */
> > > > +	flags = size > 255 ? I2C_M_RD : I2C_M_RD | I2C_M_RECV_LEN;
> > > 
> > > AFAIR SMBus specification tells about 256. Why 255?
> > > 
> > > Andi, am I correct?
> > 
> > Actually the SMBUS 3.0 protocol from 2015[*] says 255:
> > 
> > "
> > D.6 255 Bytes in Process Call
> > 
> > The maximum number of bytes allowed in the Block Write-Block Read
> > Process Call (Section 6.5.8) was increased from 32 to 255.
> > "
> > 
> > But why does it matter... I see the patch is detatching itself
> > from smbus.
> > 
> > And, actually, I wonder if this is the right way to fix it, isn't
> > it better to fix smbus instead?
> 
> I think the best solution would be to modify the i2c api to allow passing in a
> function pointer and a payload size length, to specify how to interpret the size
> of the incoming payload, so the adapter could handle both the HID over i2c
> transfer spec and SMBus block reads without needing to read more bytes than
> needed.

Can't you do that by specifying the xfer function?

When you use smbus_read/write in block or byte or whatever, smbus
always checks if there is an xfer function specified and uses
that.

If it's not specified it uses the default smbus functions with
the limitations that come with it.

> For example, for an SMBus block read, the payload size is specified in the first
> byte and it is limited to 32 bytes. However, for HID over i2c, the payload size
> is specified in the first two bytes, and there are also some device quirks
> involved to reinterpret the reported size.

which is wrong. The 32 bytes limitation is outdated: in the link
that I gave before (i.e.  this one [*]), the new SMBUS specifies
255 maximum for read/write block.

> A nice solution would be to pass in how many bytes the i2c payload size can
> contain, as well as a function pointer to evaluate the reported payload size in
> a way that the caller wants. This would require modifying every i2c adapter
> driver to add this functionality, but it would fix the efficiency problem faced
> by i2c-hid and perhaps others.
> 
> > I have a patch ready that fixes the smbus transfer size, perhaps
> > I should rebase, test and send it.
> 
> For the i2c-hid driver?

No, sorry, for smbus.

Now... here you are replacing "i2c_master_recv" with
"i2c_transfer_buffer_flags". I do not really like this change,
although I understand it's necessary, because we are bypassing
the real issue that is that the smbus implementation is outdated.

I have a patch for that that for a matter of time I never sent.

Andi