Received: by 2002:a05:6902:102b:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id x11csp198258ybt; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 21:23:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxyr6pbUQ5BEPtuZyRliR2AYBb4fNMb6Z4O1LUpNjaFCe8GSiElK1X9kyF9+ZB5U2pyUXCU X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:39d9:: with SMTP id i25mr5646966eje.510.1592367830225; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 21:23:50 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1592367830; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=g1sgDBdkFroFSJb7GcC6BJoYw4Dn2dkOyYB8WAiu3EdimDQ8H6SanJ7YNnjsJycI/P 2nSjMIHF77euhjTcmmrmmK+p3pAU2C81vdnWR8YJqhC8MjgxfQ54ncSrmDegaokb9IbS D3M8Ma2gF7klOjKLmJfMU2/fCvJjEiur6pgAlBK4YOCCOcX3o7P9mKwXj/lfbJ5NrS49 plCLpr3gFP2u4YDYS4qSx59JuJx3aMnOlTHyv/trMovZ6ZEq1ApZrF8mpC6kMEa5+XHV aGBmZmG1hvaNr6ftIoWufhzES2pnmZUMxH/MEJgQY1fmk98ryvw62HUHQqpIdc8oJVAx QR8g== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:mime-version:references:message-id :in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=QFW0KIDHyxhVxdZyGj1j1vi4SqBCTRtV4oq4VGuy2Qs=; b=ftWA3TAwYMrCRqDpt6flegyVY2c0ROHrDxr4Dxhcl5bpBB2YRJaiUFOLXxTOYwPb4j OkGf49TWJelZZ3/kTSMBBkLY26ZEkZIgV6pIb27O2BYUC2L/FVj+EAQ4iSwx/e7Z7kDZ 7jAUWCsA/WNK0slvm3PyhUgn4iTTSThA6RjUPQGa7rXrCxEEYdcWdNWWhizmQ4fhBKlL nI+tJGu3uKvbJnCdw6O20fJQtYANZ5dydnIwgLbXciKQr2yuE0Tm1eV1j9kBfl0nTTcd pZyPOfeqbWCOj/AO5tAMucITacU0PPVeWA0FMqbWe+lGvXcWYbwMKC92VMFFviz1uKR3 Ss3Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id b5si14496660edz.386.2020.06.16.21.23.27; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 21:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726712AbgFQEVm (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 17 Jun 2020 00:21:42 -0400 Received: from kvm5.telegraphics.com.au ([98.124.60.144]:40716 "EHLO kvm5.telegraphics.com.au" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725808AbgFQEVm (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Jun 2020 00:21:42 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kvm5.telegraphics.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020AA27F1F; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 00:21:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 14:21:39 +1000 (AEST) From: Finn Thain To: "Martin K. Petersen" cc: Chris Boot , linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, target-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Bart Van Assche , Chuhong Yuan , Nicholas Bellinger , Stefan Richter Subject: Re: [PATCH] scsi: target/sbp: remove firewire SBP target driver In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <01020172acd3d10f-3964f076-a820-43fc-9494-3f3946e9b7b5-000000@eu-west-1.amazonses.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 16 Jun 2020, Martin K. Petersen wrote: > > I haven't used this driver for a long time, but I still own PowerMacs > > with firewire, and I know I'm not the only one. > I need to correct what I wrote above. I recall that years ago, when I needed to share storage from my Linux box to my PowerBook pismo, I used ethernet and the globalSAN iSCSI initiator for Mac OS X (which is no longer freely available AFAICS). When I said that I had used the SBP target driver before, I misremembered that iSCSI target setup. I've actually never used the SBP target driver. > I also have old 1394 hardware kicking around in the basement. But having > worked with FireWire shared storage targets in the past, I have zero > desire to ever touch any of that again. > > I could understand an objection if we were to entertain removing sbp2. > But really, how many people are setting up FireWire targets? > It's a good question. I don't know the answer. I have successfully used the Linux sbp2 host driver in the past, and will probably need to use it again. Likewise, I can see myself using the sbp target driver in the future because that might interoperate with MacOS 9, and might provide a bootable device to the PowerMac ROM. iSCSI cannot do those things.