Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1422790AbWCXNxH (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:53:07 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1422846AbWCXNxH (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:53:07 -0500 Received: from mail23.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.133.164]:23519 "EHLO mail23.syd.optusnet.com.au") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1422790AbWCXNxF (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:53:05 -0500 From: Con Kolivas To: Mike Galbraith Subject: Re: [2.6.16-mm1 patch] throttling tree patches Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 00:52:39 +1100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 Cc: lkml , Ingo Molnar , Andrew Morton , Nick Piggin , Peter Williams References: <1143198208.7741.8.camel@homer> <200603242334.19837.kernel@kolivas.org> <1143205342.7741.104.camel@homer> In-Reply-To: <1143205342.7741.104.camel@homer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200603250052.40235.kernel@kolivas.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1466 Lines: 29 On Saturday 25 March 2006 00:02, Mike Galbraith wrote: > On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 23:34 +1100, Con Kolivas wrote: > > I feel this discussion may degenerate beyond this point. Should we say to > > agree to disagree at this point? I don't like these changes. > > Why should it degenerate? You express your concerns, I answer them. > You don't have to agree with me, and I don't have to agree with you. > That's no reason for the discussion to degenerate. By degenerate I mean get stuck in an endless loop. I don't have the energy for cyclical discussions where no conclusive endpoint can ever be reached. That is the nature of what we're discussing. Everything is some sort of compromise and you're moving one set of compromises for another which means this can be debated forever without a right or wrong. The merits of throttling seem obvious with a sliding scale between interactivity and fairness. These other changes, to me, do not. On the interactivity side I only have interbench for hard data, and it is showing me regressions consistent with my concerns from these other "cleanups". You'll trade some other advantage for these and we'll repeat the discussion all over again. Rinse and repeat. Cheers, Con - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/