Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932591AbWCXSwL (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Mar 2006 13:52:11 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932592AbWCXSwL (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Mar 2006 13:52:11 -0500 Received: from smtp.osdl.org ([65.172.181.4]:62950 "EHLO smtp.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932591AbWCXSwK (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Mar 2006 13:52:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:48:18 -0800 From: Andrew Morton To: Valerie Henson Cc: pbadari@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ext2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, arjan@linux.intel.com, tytso@mit.edu, zach.brown@oracle.com Subject: Re: [Ext2-devel] [RFC] [PATCH] Reducing average ext2 fsck time through fs-wide dirty bit] Message-Id: <20060324104818.0016c2f2.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <20060324143239.GB14508@goober> References: <20060322011034.GP12571@goober> <1143054558.6086.61.camel@dyn9047017100.beaverton.ibm.com> <20060322224844.GU12571@goober> <20060322175503.3b678ab5.akpm@osdl.org> <20060324143239.GB14508@goober> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1648 Lines: 40 Valerie Henson wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 05:55:03PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > Valerie Henson wrote: > > > > > > ext2 is simpler and faster than ext3 in many cases. This is sort of > > > cheating; ext2 is simpler and faster because it makes no effort to > > > maintain on-disk consistency and can skip annoying things like, oh, > > > reserving space in the journal. I am looking for ways to make ext2 > > > cheat even more. > > > > > > > But it might be feasible to knock up an ext3-- in which all the journal > > operations are stubbed out. > > Hmm... Could we get the mark_buffer_dirty/mark_inode_dirty logic > right? All things are possible ;) One might add a new ext3_minus_minus_mark_buffer_dirty(), for example, put that in all the right places. > Probably create a list in the stubbed journal functions and > then mark them dirty in the journal close? However, half the reason > I'm working on ext2 is the simplicity of the code - stubbing it out > would solve the performance problem but not the complexity problem. Well ext3-- won't do anything to simplify the ext3 codebase. It was just a thought.. > Note that ext3's habit of clearing indirect blocks on truncate would > break some things I want to do in the future. (Insert secret plans > here.) Ah. I guess one would need to port the ext2 truncate code. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/