Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964799AbWCXT1e (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:27:34 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964796AbWCXT1e (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:27:34 -0500 Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com ([32.97.110.150]:56292 "EHLO e32.co.us.ibm.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964794AbWCXT1d (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:27:33 -0500 Subject: Re: [RFC] Virtualization steps From: Dave Hansen To: Nick Piggin Cc: Kirill Korotaev , "Eric W. Biederman" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, herbert@13thfloor.at, devel@openvz.org, serue@us.ibm.com, akpm@osdl.org, sam@vilain.net, Alexey Kuznetsov , Pavel Emelianov , Stanislav Protassov In-Reply-To: <44242D4D.40702@yahoo.com.au> References: <44242A3F.1010307@sw.ru> <44242D4D.40702@yahoo.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:25:39 -0800 Message-Id: <1143228339.19152.91.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1261 Lines: 30 On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 04:33 +1100, Nick Piggin wrote: > Oh, after you come to an agreement and start posting patches, can you > also outline why we want this in the kernel (what it does that low > level virtualization doesn't, etc, etc) Can you wait for an OLS paper? ;) I'll summarize it this way: low-level virtualization uses resource inefficiently. With this higher-level stuff, you get to share all of the Linux caching, and can do things like sharing libraries pretty naturally. They are also much lighter-weight to create and destroy than full virtual machines. We were planning on doing some performance comparisons versus some hypervisors like Xen and the ppc64 one to show scaling with the number of virtualized instances. Creating 100 of these Linux containers is as easy as a couple of shell scripts, but we still can't find anybody crazy enough to go create 100 Xen VMs. Anyway, those are the things that came to my mind first. I'm sure the others involved have their own motivations. -- Dave - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/