Received: by 2002:a05:6902:102b:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id x11csp3522178ybt; Tue, 23 Jun 2020 04:32:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx2ve7Q4UGyZSgrNOgh6QB6GdFTMUafCjfx078enTfUsRLpyMT6lN8LHOuscFSfDkgkQrKc X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:9486:: with SMTP id dm6mr20365324ejc.248.1592911950307; Tue, 23 Jun 2020 04:32:30 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1592911950; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=T5DcH7jRYv602YDFcEdKULH0ClmSB51yHtRlFtUhJI1tyuNYKttwK1MnxNvYWAVEL+ c/7Z1lMwsDQRiAZ7xSSvvdZytlHhvvRDaG1IsrvG5RnwkYlpnfugM1nj9zWkwt/n5yf9 PNXj2KWc9VyCGQjlkkx6XHWUWDVz6cylpiaS+54659NN9rfbxA+6Qbqa/aJE1Cai2SUn +eObPiUVobwywSFWsO9/CEfAR9tsbgTKllErLTJTvS/4IjQ81IthrQFqIZ3YaydmT9Ow yevP09DRFvtQSZFKXsIf2wynRqsk2lHRGnTlln632FBg8Qp2gNQFByb5kcssyBykuzy/ 4VQw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date; bh=s3Q9kYkrQl7K793/Nel4X/F0Miamnce08XheHEyocRI=; b=lqBaD36PvH6HzGA2KPIgljoqSWxo5/Oo07RN70+2MmwjAyVLRecpf9zb8pvqkBxRqX zgyuFVmIsni2WCS3jlQFlZkjcRKi2hhjp5yoHjMcdtMgi9qYcs8fMcPrar/9lVJeay4Y fxTeBXDwIbpTnr4U+a4BTaPPFQjWEDaiYS5vQG8ZiYYzMGUBW+96IZ356A/1jLFVDRyb pOTQ37wIBahq356pAjPCGe+eMFe0CkAYdvA9oVuR+KbMzb91ZPia9CKmYSZZW4srz6gS q7hHUicQwGWL/XNG9TnPHorNttGtLtVKOy/h9IfZSJIbUqiyj20BuGX5j4JzfB/uxvz5 pvkg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i3si184941edy.403.2020.06.23.04.32.06; Tue, 23 Jun 2020 04:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1732353AbgFWLaN (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 23 Jun 2020 07:30:13 -0400 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:44866 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1732191AbgFWLaL (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Jun 2020 07:30:11 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.221.27]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE4AAF83; Tue, 23 Jun 2020 11:30:09 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 13:30:07 +0200 From: Joerg Roedel To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Andy Lutomirski , Joerg Roedel , Dave Hansen , Tom Lendacky , Mike Stunes , Dan Williams , Dave Hansen , "H. Peter Anvin" , Juergen Gross , Jiri Slaby , Kees Cook , kvm list , LKML , Thomas Hellstrom , Linux Virtualization , X86 ML , Sean Christopherson , Andrew Cooper Subject: Re: Should SEV-ES #VC use IST? (Re: [PATCH] Allow RDTSC and RDTSCP from userspace) Message-ID: <20200623113007.GH31822@suse.de> References: <20200425191032.GK21900@8bytes.org> <910AE5B4-4522-4133-99F7-64850181FBF9@amacapital.net> <20200425202316.GL21900@8bytes.org> <20200428075512.GP30814@suse.de> <20200623110706.GB4817@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200623110706.GB4817@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 01:07:06PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 09:55:12AM +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote: > So what happens if this #VC triggers on the first access to the #VC > stack, because the malicious host has craftily mucked with only the #VC > IST stack page? > > Or on the NMI IST stack, then we get #VC in NMI before the NMI can fix > you up. > > AFAICT all of that is non-recoverable. I am not 100% sure, but I think if the #VC stack page is not validated, the #VC should be promoted to a #DF. Note that this is an issue only with secure nested paging (SNP), which is not enabled yet with this patch-set. When it gets enabled a stack recursion check in the #VC handler is needed which panics the VM. That also fixes the #VC-in-early-NMI problem. Regards, Joerg