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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id ot18si3088763ejb.303.2020.06.23.08.39.03; Tue, 23 Jun 2020 08:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@firemail.cc header.s=mail header.b=MHNvtizM; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1732934AbgFWPhE (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 23 Jun 2020 11:37:04 -0400 Received: from mail.cock.li ([37.120.193.124]:45232 "EHLO mail.cock.li" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1733034AbgFWPgy (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Jun 2020 11:36:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=firemail.cc; s=mail; t=1592926611; bh=t9vXHu8nfW1kHDpTQh72tu2e6dfRNNJLUjum428JyaA=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=MHNvtizMxxCMf3hUVTmasdwrD1hX0BxmYnuAoR0bRv+kHPA3xbt4MmuScVtb5nn29 U9TI9MlzXW4hyRgvpsTEXtbIzB9lmU4e1Ep1UqDic8htZ9NvFnUW+CeZJg7p547uPz 1+U39a7hJ99Zsp1bb3ujuISzwj+DI6lOeiU/x08pqBOunrE/Ky5QTLmrPnK7zX7lQA CgOxgJmwrhKslWdUMD73yhvSUJB6gJB0F/SvM/JE/CvJwYzMU5TwnvvDK8xoI5VFsD 1t1ElpBoJAmKXPADer6c1559YUR0h/dFMqEK6Z3bns/xp39oyeQ+6oLADzfDMb5M/8 A7iNtvNJeMBGw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 15:36:51 +0000 From: nipponmail@firemail.cc To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@osdl.org, esr@thyrsus.com Subject: I'm being accused of "killing foss", how do I respond? Message-ID: <986afee43e6dcf11a812a595f1d55c77@firemail.cc> X-Sender: nipponmail@firemail.cc User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.10 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Dear RMS, a commentator is now accusing me of being the executioner of "foss" : > oh it's you, the schizo who killed foss by trying to defend it and > thinks he's a lawyer Later the commentator clarifies : > You went on a mailing list for some foss project with the intention of > exposing a patent violation by some > other project using the code, but instead of talking about that, you > just ranted for a few days about how much > you want to fuck little girls. > Then RMS got labeled a pedophile and eaten up by cancel culture. > I'm flabbergasted you're honestly too stupid to see the connection. The issue is copyright, not patent, and there was nothing wrong with your past statements. I would think that the fact that the GPL is effectively toothless is what would "kill free and opensource software" by causing would-be contributors to now lack faith in the "share and share alike" promise of the GPL. The FSF won't enforce it's GCC copyrights, nor will the linux kernel contributors (both regarding GRSecurity linux kernel patches and GCC plugins (and their no-redistribution attached clauses)) I also wonder about this > for a few days invective. Are days suddenly a euphemism such as is imagined regarding various creation stories? How should I respond and set the record straight? And when did "FOSS" die? I remember when that term was coined, early 2000s, has it now fallen out of favor? Why is it my fault? I never really liked that term to begin with: it's a corporate conflation of two specific idea sets: A gloss. If said term is gone what is the injury?