From: Harald Arnesen <harald@skogtun.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@cyclades.com>, Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>,
       "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
       Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
       Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: regular swsusp flamewar
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 03:16:22 +0200
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	"Tue, 28 Mar 2006 01:15:57 +0200")
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Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz> writes:

>> You know that I disagree that doing suspend in userspace is the
>> right 
>
> You know "disagreeing" with subsystem maintainer (and everyone else
> for that matter) is not exactly helpful in getting patches merged. You
> are free to believe whatever you want, but if you disagree on
> something as fundamental as "do not put unneccessary code to kernel"
> with me, it should be no surprise that I "disagree" with your patches
> (*).
>
>> approach, and you know that current uswsusp can't do everything Suspend2 does 
>> without further substantial modification. Please stop painting me as the bad 
>> guy because I won't roll over and play dead for you. Please also
>> stop 
>
> I'm not trying to paint you as a bad guy. But Mark said you are trying
> to help, and in that context I'd read it as "trying to help mainline
> development". And you are not doing that, you are developing your own
> suspend2 branch, that has nothing to do with mainline. I think we can
> agree on that one...

The main point for me is that suspend2 works, while mainline supspend
does not ("works": it takes less time to suspend/resume than to
shutdown/reboot).

I haven't tried uswsusp yet. Why try another out-of-kernel suspend when
suspend2 works perfectly?
-- 
Hilsen Harald.

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