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Subject: Re: [PATCH] Ability to read the MKTME status from userspace (patch
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To:     Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
        Daniel Gutson <daniel@eclypsium.com>
Cc:     "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
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On 6/25/20 2:27 PM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 06:16:12PM -0300, Daniel Gutson wrote:
>> What didn't become clear from the thread last time is the direction to
>> proceed. Concrete suggestion?
> Here are two:
> 
> https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20200619161752.GG32683@zn.tnic
> https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20200619161026.GF32683@zn.tnic
> 
> but before that happens, I'd like to hear Dave confirm that when we
> expose all that information to userspace, it will actually be true and
> show the necessary bits which *actually* tell you that encryption is
> enabled.
> 
> If you're still unclear, go over the thread again pls.

It boils down to this: we shouldn't expose low-level, vendor-specific
implementation details if we can avoid it.  Let's expose something that
app can actually use.

Something that will work for all of the TME, MKTME and SEV platforms
that I know of and continue to work for a while would be to have a
per-numa-node (/sys/devices/system/node[X]/file) that says: "user data
on this node is protected by memory encryption".

SEV guests would always have a 1 in all nodes.

TME systems with no platform screwiness like PMEM would always have a 1.

Old systems would have a 0 in there.

TME systems which also have PMEM-only nodes would set 0 in PMEM nodes
and 1 on DRAM nodes.

Systems with screwy EFI_MEMORY_CPU_CRYPTO mixing within NUMA nodes would
turn it off for the screwy nodes.

Is that concrete enough?