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From:   Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>
To:     Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@xilinx.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/5] dt-bindings: remoteproc: Add documentation for
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On Mon 29 Jun 17:37 PDT 2020, Stefano Stabellini wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Jun 2020, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 11:40 AM Ben Levinsky <BLEVINSK@xilinx.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Rob,
> > >
> > > The Xilinx R5 Remoteproc driver has been around for a long time -- admittedly we should have upstreamed it long ago. The driver in the current form is using an "classic" remoteproc device tree node as described here.
> > 
> > I would rather not have 2 possible bindings to maintain. If there's
> > been no rush to upstream this til now, then it can wait longer.
> > 
> > >
> > > I am working with Stefano to come up with an appropriate System Device Tree representation but it is not going to be ready right away. Our preference would be to upstream the remoteproc node and driver in their current forms while system device tree is maturing.
> > 
> > There's obviously going to still need to be some sort of description
> > of the interface between cores, but this has parts that obviously
> > conflict with what's getting defined for system DT. The TCMs are the
> > most obvious. If you can remove (or hardcode in the driver) what
> > conflicts, then perhaps this can be upstreamed now.
> 
> 
> Hi Rob,
> 
> Sorry it took a while to answer back but we wanted to do some research
> to make sure the reply is correct.
> 
> 
> The System Device Tree version of the OpenAMP remoteproc bindings aims
> at being simpler and vendor-neutral. As anything else System Device
> Tree, Lopper will read it and generate a "traditional" device tree with
> the existing remoteproc bindings. In that sense, it might not affect
> Linux directly.
> 

Can you give some examples of how you will be able to describe the
hardware involved in powering/clocking resources surrounding your
remoteproc and the necessary resources in a "simpler and vendor neutral"
way that then can be further lopped(?) into something that Linux can use
to control any remoteproc?

> However, given the fragmentation of the remoteproc bindings across
> multiple vendors (they are all different), I think it is a good idea for
> Linux, for System Device Tree, and in general to come up with simpler
> remoteproc bindings, more aligned between the vendors. If nothing else,
> it is going to make Lopper's development easier.
> 

In my view the big reason for the fragmentation between bindings is
because they all describe different hardware. There has been common
properties of remoteprocs discussed, but apart from the firmware-name
property I don't think we have agreed on any.

> 
> So I think it is a good idea to take this opportunity to simplify the
> Xilinx remoteproc bindings as you suggested. The idea of to removing the
> TCM nodes is a good one. In addition I asked Ben to have a look at
> whether the mboxes and mbox-names properties can be removed too.
> 

If your remoteproc uses a mailbox for signaling, then this should be
described in devicetree. This will allow you to reuse components in
other designs where either part is replaced or reused.

Regards,
Bjorn

> Ben will reply with a simplified bindings proposal.